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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 07:25 BST (UK) »
Since you know the baptism date of 26 August 1781 at St Andrew in West Dereham  the parents are James and Elizabeth Reeve
So you need the father of James Reeve?

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John was buried 9 April 1782 at West Dereham son of James and Elizabeth.

The John Reeve you are looking for is not from West Dereham  1781

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 10:02 BST (UK) »
JOHN was buried 11 Jan 1848 age 71 (1777)

As John does not appear on 1851 his pob in Norfolk is not conclusively known.

If born circa 1776/7...
Foulden is next door to Northwold, so a possibility might be the John baptized there 13 July 1777 to William and Elizabeth Reeve?
(possibly they are the William Reve and Elizabeth Sharwood who married 15 Jan 1771, same place?)
PR here with that baptism
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRX3-PTD?i=3&cc=1416598

First son to John and Mary at Northwold is William in 1804
Wm son of John Reeves + Mary his wife late Mary Towler was born Feb 17 and Rec'd into Church March 18 1804

There was also a Robert Reeve bap at Foulden to William and Elizabeth in 1781
A Robert Reeve and wife Susan (Reed) were having children baptized at Northwold at the same time as John and Mary, and they were all in the hamlet of Whittington, certainly in the later period.

But John and Mary didn't have a son Robert :(

Just an idea, something to investigate perhaps!

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 13:04 BST (UK) »
JOHN was buried 11 Jan 1848 age 71 (1777)

First son to John and Mary at Northwold is William in 1804
Wm son of John Reeves + Mary his wife late Mary Towler was born Feb 17 and Rec'd into Church March 18 1804

I'm confused with Mary Towler dying 1803/1804.  The IGI records show a swathe of children born to Mary Towler and John Reeve after 1804. 
Bell; Vane; Wane; Reeve & Reeves.


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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 13:21 BST (UK) »
Hi
She hasn't died. They are using "late" as in "formerly" when giving the maiden name of the mother.
John

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 13:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you Trish and amondg.
Yes, I've done the research myself and not from others family trees.
If my John Reeve is not the one born in West Dereham due to an infant death, then I'm left with the most likely being John Reeve baptised 19 April 1778 at Little Fransham, about 6 miles west of East Dereham.  The IGI records are quite positive about Mary Towler having many children to John Reeve.
Now ..
That means that his father is not Thomas Reeve of Foxley or anywhere else, and is actually William Reeve who married an Elizabeth, the most likely being Elizabeth Capes of Little Fransham in 1769.

Can anyone confirm that this is the most likely from information that may not be available to an Australian researcher.  Thanking you
Bell; Vane; Wane; Reeve & Reeves.

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 16:09 BST (UK) »
If my John Reeve is not the one born in West Dereham due to an infant death, then I'm left with the most likely being John Reeve baptised 19 April 1778 at Little Fransham, about 6 miles west of East Dereham.
That means that his father is not Thomas Reeve of Foxley or anywhere else, and is actually William Reeve who married an Elizabeth, the most likely being Elizabeth Capes of Little Fransham in 1769.

Can anyone confirm that this is the most likely from information that may not be available to an Australian researcher. 

Burial at Little Fransham, 25 April 1778
John son of Willm and Eliz Reeve

This is information is available to researchers anywhere, including Australia
Image of parish register on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6263-HN2?i=32&cc=1416598

You haven't explained why the John baptized at Little Fransham would have been a more likely candidate than the Foulden one?
Remember that not all Norfolk baptisms have been indexed by FamilySearch, though there may still be images available on the website.
Don't forget FreeReg, which is a good source, as demonstrated by Trish.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 August 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
She hasn't died. They are using "late" as in "formerly" when giving the maiden name of the mother.

Parish register entry here for baptism of William (no. 611)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6P29-N89?i=40

All the wives are late :)

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 August 20 09:01 BST (UK) »

If born circa 1776/7...
Foulden is next door to Northwold, so a possibility might be the John baptized there 13 July 1777 to William and Elizabeth Reeve?
(possibly they are the William Reve and Elizabeth Sharwood who married 15 Jan 1771, same place?)
PR here with that baptism
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRX3-PTD?i=3&cc=1416598


Thanks jonw65.  Try as I might, I cannot find the index to this marriage, nor the child John of Foulden, in spite of the parish record you attached.

Someone else asked why did I pick the John Reeve of Little Fransham that was born/baptised on 6th October 1782, in spite of him being 3 years younger than Mary Towler.  The reason is that all the others died, and the one suggested from Foulden of 1771 (above) cannot be found by myself.
Process of elimination was followed.
I think I probably need to close this post as we are now onto another John Reeve and his forebears.
I thank everyone for their help.  I'll take advice and use Family Search and Free Reg.  Bewteen them I should be able to get some idea of what is going on.
Regards to all
Grahame
Bell; Vane; Wane; Reeve & Reeves.

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Re: John Reeve of West Dereham Norfolk b. 26 Aug 1781
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 August 20 19:28 BST (UK) »
The Norfolk Family History Society has transcribed the records of Foulden

William Reve of Bechamwell married ELizabeth Sharwood of Foulden 15 January 1771 at Foulden
witness Robert Reynolds and John Capel/Capet. The witnesses signed bride and groom did not.

Children
Mary bap 24 February 1771
William bap 4 October 1772
Elizabeth bap 6 March 1774
Ann bap 5 November 1775
**JOHN bap 13 July 1777 
Susannah bap 14 March 1779
Robert bap 4 March 1781
James bap 16 March 1783
Thomas bap 8 October 1786
Frances bap 16 June 1788  Buried 29 June 1788 daughter of William & Elizabeth