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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 08 August 20 21:01 BST (UK) »
Shaun,
Many thanks for your continuing research.
I believe that I have found the mother of the 1868 born infant James:
Mary Ann Haynes 24 Wife Wesleyan born England
as:
MARY ANN COOPER
BIRTH ABT 1844 Daventry, Northamptonshire, England
DEATH 1917 Warrington, Lancashire, England
with her first born James HAYNES was born 17 July 1968 in Spain/Gibraltar.
Her later children were all born back in Daventry and Warrington England.
The child's full name appears to be James William Thomas Sheldon Haynes.
For me the SHELDON name rings a bell [no source recalled] as a business partner to the HAYNES  brothers in Cadiz.

What is the difference between the 1868 list and the 1871 census please?
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
POPE, London docklands,
PRIDDY, Devon,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
RIPPINGILLE
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 August 20 21:09 BST (UK) »

Shaun
"22502   HAYNES   Ann age 59 born England   No data   Protestant   wife?" or MOTHER

Ann Jenkinson
18111877
BIRTH 4 APR 1811 Derby, Derbyshire, England
DEATH 10 MAR 1877 Puntales, Cadiz, Andalucia, Spain
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
POPE, London docklands,
PRIDDY, Devon,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
RIPPINGILLE
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 August 20 21:13 BST (UK) »
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What is the difference between the 1868 list and the 1871 census please?

They are censuses taken three years apart, one in 1868 and the other in 1871. The Archives refer to them as "Registers of Inhabitants".
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 August 20 23:25 BST (UK) »
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"22502   HAYNES   Ann age 59 born England   No data   Protestant   wife?" or MOTHER

Ann Jenkinson
18111877
BIRTH 4 APR 1811 Derby, Derbyshire, England
DEATH 10 MAR 1877 Puntales, Cadiz, Andalucia, Spain
Yes. as I said:

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It looks like Ann is JH's mother.
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 09 August 20 08:55 BST (UK) »
If you are looking at the 1868 and 1871 Gibraltar census images, Thomas John Haynes' 1871 entry is at the top of page 184 in the Second Division pdf.
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 August 20 09:11 BST (UK) »
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 09 August 20 15:45 BST (UK) »
1940 Evacuation Records:

https://www.nationalarchives.gi/EvacList_Surname.aspx

Shaun,
Thank you so much for sending me this evacuation link.  I will try to follow up all of this
HAYNES family.

"Miss Dolly" who was headed for Morocco spent her War years in Madeira and was:
Josephine Dorothy DOLLIE Cochrane
BIRTH 22 MAY 1918 Gibraltar
DEATH JUN 2009 Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
daughter of:
Alfred Thomas Cochrane
18751961
BIRTH ABT 1875 Cadiz; British, Spain
DEATH 4 MAR 1961 Gibraltar
and his wife:
Obdulia Elizabeth HAYNES
BIRTH 25 JUL 1884
DEATH Unknown

ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
POPE, London docklands,
PRIDDY, Devon,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
RIPPINGILLE
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Re: Gibraltar, Select Marriages before 1884 HAYNES and ALVAREZ. 1940 WWII Evacuees?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 09 August 20 16:04 BST (UK) »
The bottom 3 on this list are your Cochranes en route to Madeira on the Royal Ulsterman. Looks like AT Cochrane put the ladies in First and himself in Third Class. 

Miss Dolly Haynes was someone else. There are a couple of Dolly/Dollie Haynes in the 1914 Gibraltar census.
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