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William John Harris missing records
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 15:27 BST (UK) »
seek help with finding service record and or medal entitlement with Great grandfathers brothers military history.

William John Harris is believed to have served in the Army Service Corps....there is a photo of him in the uniform and he did serve during WW1. he was from Morriston Glam, Wales. He had a brother Philip. In 1911 census both are with mother is Winefred age 45. William is 21.
both lads worked underground.
He definitely served in WW1.....for how long we don't know, what he did or where served is known either.
when he left military he stayed in London area and was a tram conductor.  his mind was believed to be  affected. early twenties he went home to Merthyr, Wales, to stay with brother. then go to visit relatives in Swansea area (mumbles) where he then committed suicide, leaving a letter.
Family myth is that he was sacked from tram job following argument with female passenger concerning the war.
I am going around in circles, cant find anything.....but acknowledge that many of you are far more experienced than I in finding info.

any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 August 20 16:47 BST (UK) »
Did you know that some 60% of service records were lost to bombing in WW2 so the odds are always against finding records that can identify an individual.  Medal records show possibilities with variants of the name but these have no identifying detail. 

Have you sought out 1918 absent voters list for the place he was living?  Only some are on line, none for Wales that I can see.  These should give his number and/or unit.

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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 August 20 10:47 BST (UK) »
Had a look at absent voters 1918, unless I'm doing something wrong...I can't find anything.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire


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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 August 20 11:10 BST (UK) »
In 1911 census both are with mother is Winefred age 45. William is 21.
both lads worked underground.

Where are they living.
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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 August 20 11:44 BST (UK) »
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William John Harris is believed to have served in the Army Service Corps....there is a photo of him in the uniform

Can you post the photo?
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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 August 20 11:53 BST (UK) »
Living...1911...at
32 cross st, Penywern, Dowlais. Which is in/near Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 August 20 12:16 BST (UK) »
My ability/knowledge of navigating through the various military sites/pages is poor...(going bald pulling out hair).
William John Harris' dad was deceased
So his next of kin would likely be his mother, Winefred.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 August 20 12:20 BST (UK) »
If you have only been looking on line for the relevant AVL then you haven't done enough.  As I advised in the PM go to the relevant county record office.  If he isn't there then he may have ben at home at the time of the census, he may not have served overseas, his records may be among the 60% lost in WW2.

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Re: William John Harris missing records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 August 20 14:21 BST (UK) »
Perhaps worth noting that Winefred used the spelling Harries rather than Harris.
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