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Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 15:45 BST (UK) »
hi, another military puzzle... I hope you can help with.

both men are supposed to have served in WW1, one is believed to be named on the Ypres Menim Gate. not sure of unit or battle that resulted in death.

Charles H Winsor 19 on 1901 census
George H Winsor  17 on 1901 census.... father was Charles, mother was Susanna

seek help with military service history, medals, regiment/unit, death.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 August 20 16:17 BST (UK) »
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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 August 20 17:02 BST (UK) »
There is a medal card for a Royal Engineer 209363 George H Winsor but see my comment on your recent thread about Harris! http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5957593
No other records evident.

IF the one identified by rosie is your man (the age looks right)
 then he was 2 East Surreys, war diary for the period can be downloaded free at present:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353529

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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 August 20 17:42 BST (UK) »
that is definitely Charles.

thanks you, you kind people...things are a little clearer for me and family.
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 August 20 17:52 BST (UK) »
Charles medal card:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5957559
date to France is given 6 March 1915, the battalion had been in France for  couple of months.

His pension card is on the Fold 3 element of Ancestry

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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 August 20 18:13 BST (UK) »
follow up question.....if Charles was a driver in R.E. .driver of what and how did he die
Devon; Winsor, Elliott, Rattenbury, Blackler, Knapman, Earle, Rich
Monmouthshire, area of Machen, Harris
Monmouthshire; pontypool area, Morgan & HP Jones a baptist minister
Norfolk; Cater, Flood, Margerson, Woodcock, Darsley.
St Twynnells area of Pembrokeshire and Cole & Lewis
Northumberland; Davison, Godsmark, Ford, Crackett
Lewis, Cole & Beavan families from Boughrood & Glasbury in Radnorshire

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Re: Charles H Winsor & George H Winsor
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 August 20 19:12 BST (UK) »
George was the Royal Engineer and there is no record of his death in the war.

So if it is George we are talking about - don't know -  it depends on which branch of the Royal Engineers he served in.  If he was in a Field Company (the most numerous), of their 217 officers and men, they had 37 drivers to look after their 76 horses  There are very few men with numbers near to him for whom records can be found, I found some that were field company men   Some other types of company also had horses given that almost all the kit needed by all of them was horse drawn.

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