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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #18 on: Monday 10 August 20 22:40 BST (UK) »
You mention Alfred’s fathers name was Thomas occ Musician

could this be the HORTON family on 1851 census as lodgers Head Mary Ridings Inn Keeper

Manchester Road, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire
Thomas   Haughton   Lodger 37 Musician   Leicestershire Blabe
Mary   Haughton   Lodger   Mar 35 Traveller With Wild Beasts   Leicestershire
Alfred   Haughton   Lodger Leicestershire
Eliza   Haughton   Lodger   5mths Leicestershire

Have a look at original as not sure if Alfred’s age is 19 or 9 and also if Thomas is noted as married   ???
HO107 Piece number   2154 Folio   303 Page   20

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Not sure if this might be Eliza’s birth entry nothing on GRO for Haughton

HORTON, ELIZA       mmn ADCOCK 
1850  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 95



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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #19 on: Monday 10 August 20 22:45 BST (UK) »
Oh Ladyhawk, that looks so promising  :)
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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #20 on: Monday 10 August 20 22:51 BST (UK) »
Oh Ladyhawk! You're a star! That looks very promising indeed. Thank you so much. I'll have a look at the original. Thanks too to John and Heywood for sticking with this for me.
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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #21 on: Monday 10 August 20 22:54 BST (UK) »
And as for Mary being a "Traveller with Wild Beasts", that's not complimentary to the other three is it?

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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #22 on: Monday 10 August 20 22:56 BST (UK) »

could this be the HORTON family on 1851 census as lodgers Head Mary Ridings Inn Keeper

Manchester Road, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire
Thomas   Haughton   Lodger 37 Musician   Leicestershire Blabe
Mary   Haughton   Lodger   Mar 35 Traveller With Wild Beasts   Leicestershire
Alfred   Haughton   Lodger Leicestershire
Eliza   Haughton   Lodger   5mths Leicestershire


I'm intrigued by Mary's occupation. Did it mean she was with a travelling circus or menagerie? Or was it a humorous reflection on the behaviour of her fellow travellers?  ;D
As others have pointed out, there are many variants of the Horton surname, with and without H.

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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 August 20 23:18 BST (UK) »
Eliza Horton married at 16 on 06 Sep 1866
at St Margaret’s Leicestershire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLSW-LY8N

Looking at The original marriage record father Thomas occ Musician her address Russel Square

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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #24 on: Monday 10 August 20 23:29 BST (UK) »
1861 2288/38/25

6 Mill Street Leicester

Mary Horton 43 yrs Seamstress (Socks) b Blaby
Eliza Horton 10 yrs Seamstress (Gloves) b Leicester

In the same house John and Sarah Adcock

Added Mary is widowed.
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« Reply #25 on: Monday 10 August 20 23:46 BST (UK) »
1861 2288/38/25

6 Mill Street Leicester

Mary Horton 43 yrs Seamstress (Socks) b Blaby
Eliza Horton 10 yrs Seamstress (Gloves) b Leicester

In the same house John and Sarah Adcock

Added Mary is widowed.

Well found - You beat me too it heywood was about to post same but my ipad needed recharging  :)

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Re: Help please! Ancestor who doesn't seem to have been born!
« Reply #26 on: Monday 10 August 20 23:49 BST (UK) »
Just checked the original and it must be my Alfred and family. His age is 9 (the enumerator made a mark that makes it look like 19). If they were with a circus, then perhaps Thomas is in the circus band??? How exciting  ;D

I've checked the marriage cert for Alfred's first marriage in 1868, and father Thomas was deceased, so the 1861 census entry fits with that too.

Can I ask, does everyone feel that this is the family I'm looking for?