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Naden family over 4 generation
« on: Sunday 09 August 20 12:14 BST (UK) »
I researched the Naden family over a decade ago and the recent lockdown   has given time to sort through the papers again.  Any help members can give me will be welcome. Who were they all?

The part of the family tree I am following is in outllne -
Thomas Naden Builder
George Naden I son of the above married Jane Hooper in 1822. Occupation tea merchant.
George NadenII married Sophia M A Chambers 1876?
George Naden III married Eliza Lucy Stanyard in 1879. 

I have some census records
1841 Sarah B Naden showing her to be daughter of Geo I. So where is his wife Jane and where are they living? Who are the other 13 people on the premises?
1851 Geo I with
 new wife Maria. Where are they living?

1871 Where is Geo I living?  5 servants suggest a big house.
Geo II and Geo III appear to be clerks but where were they living?

I have some certificates showing Geo I d 1882, Jane d 1847 at Green Lane, Sophia d 1875 and   Geo I m Maria Pedley in 1848.

Any flesh that can be added to the bare bones would be appreciated. I know it is a big ask to look at 4 generations but any bits and bobs will be welcomed.

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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 August 20 13:36 BST (UK) »
If Jane is not on the 1841 Census she may be visiting elsewhere.
F/S has Georges Marriage to Maria Lyndon PEDLEY 28 Mar 1848 Worcestershire. (Widower/Single)

George (2) married 3 Apr 1856 Worcs to Sophia Mary Ann CHAMBERS
(Fathers George/Thomas)


George (3) marriage on F/S also 29 Mar 1879 Aston, Warwickshire

1841 George is in High St , Birmingham with Daug Sarah

There are not 13 other people living with them;

Census has
/George Naden   40
Sarah B Naden   18
/

/ denies end of household and start of another

1841 Census did not show exact addresses

1851 he is at Green Bank House, Yardley, Worcs with new Wife Maria
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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 August 20 13:54 BST (UK) »
Just a query about the 1847 D/C for Jane.
Is this it?
NADEN, JANE age 63 
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in ASTON UNION  Volume 16  Page 122

So born c 1784?

A bit old to marry 1822?
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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 August 20 14:11 BST (UK) »
I think Jane was dead before 1841 Census.

George Naden and Maria Lyndon Pedley are witnesses at Sarah Bird Nadens 1846 Marriage.
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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 August 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
I cant find a Bapt for George c 1801 Litchfield but I am sure you know Thomas Naden married Sarah Bird 1784 there.

Sarah died 1817 age 55 and Thomas 1828 age 66 (FreeREG)
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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 August 20 10:25 BST (UK) »
Trish  -  As soon as I saw your name and picture I remembered that you have helped me before. Sherlock Holmes said once you have eliminated the impossible what ever is left no matter how unlikely must be the truth. You  are right!!!  Geo 1 at 21 married a woman of about 40.  Your reference numbers on the D/C  are correct.  It appears that on Jane's death in Dec 47 Geo marries his servant in April 48.

Re the 1841 census with that list of names the F/S you will notice that near the bottom is Maria Pedley again. Hard to believe that the top and bottom are in his household but not the middle lot.  Could they be employees in the tea business? They are all young men; what else can they be?

I cannot find Jane on F/S. Died at 225 Green Lane Bordesly with ? sister Mary Hooper. No sign of her either.

Will write again soon.   And thanks

Peter


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Re: Naden family over 4 generation
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 August 20 13:39 BST (UK) »
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