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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 08:19 BST (UK) »
I live 4 miles from St Anne church - and I know many many Caine family - how far forward have you progressed - I might be able to put you in touch with existing Caine family related to Edna and her mother Jane Elizabeth
you will see here - a huge amount of Caine family in Garston

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.surname=caine&q.anyPlace=garston&f.recordCountry=England&f.recordSubcountry=England%2CLancashire&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on&count=20&offset=0 
said to be in Garston from the Isle of Man - is it a  Manx surname ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 09:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you garstonite for you kind offer - how wonderful!

I am right at the beginning of my research into the Caine family. It's probably best if you go to the link to another topic that I posted in my first post for some background into my research thus far - if you have time.

My husband has many, many DNA matches with Caine/Cain as well as lots of other Manx names which  must be the descendants of his paternal line - his Mum's extensive family have no Isle of Man matches.

Thanks again,

Margaret
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CADDY/COPPIN/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GIDDY/GROWDEN/KITT/OLIVER/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY/France/Kent/NZ 
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 10:01 BST (UK) »
Margaret - I don't know how true this is - it is men talking in the pub
Caine - Manx .......Cain - not Manx
Corkill - Manx .......Corkhill - not Manx
Laughna - Manx .....Lauhna - not Manx
Quayle - Manx .......Quail - not Manx
if it helps in any way
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Just text my mate J*** Caine - his ancestor in Garston came from St Anne ,Isle of Man ...never heard of St Anne in the Isle of Man ....lol
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 10:11 BST (UK) »
....Yes that's great  :D

OH also has matches with Corkill, Quayle, Cowley, Coole, Clague, Garret, Kelly, Teare, Watterson, Corlett and the list goes on....however our Edna is supposed to have family  (? parents) who owned a sweet and tobacco shop in Liverpool in the 1940's.
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CADDY/COPPIN/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GIDDY/GROWDEN/KITT/OLIVER/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY/France/Kent/NZ 
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
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MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 10:19 BST (UK) »
France evidently - Cain

Last name: Cain
It derives from the Middle English "cane", a development of the Old French "cane", meaning cane, reed. Secondly, it may be a Norman locational name from the town of Caen, in Calvados, Normandy, named with the Gaulish elements "catu", battle, plus "magos" meaning field, plain.

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St Anne is Santon in The Isle of Man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santon_(parish)
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 10:27 BST (UK) »
This is interesting .
Napoleanic Wars
The Royal Manx Fencibies fought in the Napoleanic War.   formed 1779

I wonder if that is where the French Cain became the Manx Caine ??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Manx_Fencibles
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 10:42 BST (UK) »
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 11:05 BST (UK) »
...I agree - really interesting article about  The Royal Manx Fencibles.

I must admit I am a tad naive when it comes to IOM history etc., so I do appreciate the links. also Santon = St.Anne IOM I didn't know this either.  :-[

Just had a quick look at the IOM Family History Society Birth Registrations - this is great, so many matching names including Cannell, Killip and Quirk. I'll have a good trawl through it tomorrow morning when my antipodean brain is fresh.

In appreciation,

Margaret  :D

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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GIDDY/GROWDEN/KITT/OLIVER/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY/France/Kent/NZ 
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts
WATSON/Down

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Re: Help with CAINE family Liverpool
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 11 August 20 12:56 BST (UK) »
that list sounds good news Margaret   xxx
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford