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"Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« on: Wednesday 12 August 20 15:15 BST (UK) »
Hello,
in a separate topic in the General Forum, several lovely people are helping me to locate some of my wife's ancestors. We think we have found them in 1851:

Head Mary Ridings Inn Keeper

Manchester Road, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire
Thomas   Haughton   Lodger 37 Musician   Leicestershire Blabe
Mary   Haughton   Lodger   Mar 35 Traveller With Wild Beasts   Leicestershire
Alfred   Haughton   Lodger Leicestershire
Eliza   Haughton   Lodger   5mths Leicestershire

HO107 Piece number   2154 Folio   303 Page   20

I assume that this means they were with a traveling circus, and possibly Thomas was a musician in the band, however, one should never assume...

Could someone let me know if they were circus people or is there another possibility?

Thanks

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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 15:22 BST (UK) »
You could start on here https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/nfca
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 16:17 BST (UK) »
What a great site. Thanks. From what I've read so far it seems pretty certain they were with a menagerie.


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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 16:43 BST (UK) »
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 20 21:21 BST (UK) »
Just for information - the thread about the family is here but there is quite a bit of information being added re travelling menageries etc

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835605.0
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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 August 20 00:44 BST (UK) »

"Travellers With Wild Beasts"  I hope they had good insurance!

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Re: "Travellers with wild beasts" 1851 Census occupation
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 August 20 01:34 BST (UK) »
barryd, I've been researching this for the other thread.
 A tiger belonging to the menagerie they worked with escaped from a cage in transit and killed a horse (1852). The menagerie also had a lion and the following year there was almost a "Lion and Albert" scenario but although, imo, "Albert" deserved it, the lion didn't eat him.  Wolves escaped from another travelling menagerie in 1852 and ate some Welsh sheep. The 2nd menagerie had a human fatality a few years before when the young lady lion-tamer "Lion Queen" met a shocking fate. 
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