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Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« on: Thursday 13 August 20 21:17 BST (UK) »
One of my Great-Great Grandmothers was Elizabeth Hayes born around 1833 in Belfast.  Her father's name was Samuel Hayes who was a wire drawer (according to her marriage record to my Great-Great Grandfather, George Pickavance).  Unfortunately, I have no other clues about her family: no mother's name, siblings, nor even an actual birth/Christening date.

Elizabeth's birth year is derived from UK Census records.  She appears in the 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 Censuses living in St.Helens, Lancashire, England.  Each of the records gives her birth year as 1833.  Her burial record from August 1901 lists her birth year as 1832.

My Great-Great Grandfather was Elizabeth's third husband.  Her first husband had a surname Ashton but I have no record of that marriage.  She then married William Abbott on 8 Nov 1860 at St.Paul's Church, Warrington, Lancashire, England.  She married George Pickavance at St.Mary's Church, Prescot, on 31 Nov 1870.

The precise spelling of her surname is unclear.  It could be Hayes or Heyes.  Her name on the birth certificate of my Great-Grandmother, Eliza Pickavance, is either Case or Ease (the latter is more likely as a mis-spelling of Hayes).

Can anyone out there in the wonderful world of Rootschat help me find Elizabeth's birth date and her other family members?

Many thanks,
Mark   


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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 August 20 21:56 BST (UK) »
William Abbott didn't waste much time.  His wife Ellen died Sept qtr 1860 and he remarried Dec qtr 1860

So looking at the 1861 entry Elizabeth does not appear to have had any children by Ashton which could have given us a clue to husbands name

Is she shown as a widow on the 1860 marriage cert as there is an 1851 entry for an Elizabeth Ashton b 1832 Ireland but living in Liverpool - single
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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 August 20 22:55 BST (UK) »
Could this be the family in Warrington in 1851?
Piece 2203 folio 482 page 20
On findmypast/familysearch Samuel is Heyer, the rest have no surname
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYK-B77

Samuel Hayes(?) Head 50 Pensioner born Portsmouth
Jane Wife 40(?) Belfast
Elizabeth 18 Fustian Cutter
Samuel 13 Scholar
Henry 14
Ellen 9
Mary 3
John 10 months

Looks like it says the children all born Warrington


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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 August 20 22:59 BST (UK) »
Baptism at St Paul Warrington, 14 July 1850
John
Son of Samuel and Jane Hayes
abode Towns End
father a Wire drawer

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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 August 20 23:06 BST (UK) »
Possible birth reg?
HAYES, JOHN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: SEARLE 
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 20  Page 1075

Before him Mary
HAYES, MARY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: SEARLE   
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 20  Page 892

Baptism 12 Dec 1847 Warrington
Mary
parents Samuel + Eliza Jane Heys
father Wire drawer

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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 August 20 23:11 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage at Portsea, 8 May 1831
Samuel Hayes
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Eliza Jane Searle
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q571-2FXZ

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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 August 20 23:21 BST (UK) »
In 1841 they may be in Warrington
Samuel Hayes 45 a Labourer
Eliza Hayes 25
Elizabeth Hayes 5 born Ireland
Samuel Hayes 3
Henry Hayes 1

All bar Elizabeth born Lancashire. Also a Female Servant
Piece 521 book 12 folio 21 page 34   
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Birth of the youngest
HAYES, HENRY  SEARLE     
Mother's Maiden Surname: SEARLE 
GRO Reference: 1840  J Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 20  Page 843

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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 August 20 23:23 BST (UK) »
Could this be the family in Warrington in 1851?
Henry 14

Henry will be 11. Probably my mistake.

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Re: Finding Elizabeth Hayes, born abt 1833, Belfast
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 August 20 23:23 BST (UK) »
Reply removed - 1841 details already given above
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