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Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« on: Friday 14 August 20 16:54 BST (UK) »
Maud Roebuck Hattersley married Harry Nadin in 1899 in Sheffield. They had five children before Maud died in 1907 (age 27, YOB 1880). Mother’s maiden name for these children is recorded as Roebuck, not Hattersley.

Her marriage in 1899 (as Maud Roebuck Hattersley) says her father is Edward James Hattersley, a steel manufacturer. There is a bp for Maud Roebuck Hattersley to Edward James Hattersley and Caroline in Bolton-le-Moors on 6.6.1880.

The issue is I can’t find a birth registration for Maud, nor a marriage for her parents, nor an entry for Maud in censuses prior to 1901 (when she is recorded as Maud Nadin age 20 born in Sheffield).

There is a marriage for Edward James Hattersley to Ada Augusta Fox in 1871 in Sheffield, as well as several children for this couple (with mmn Fox). in 1911, the couple are in Sheffield and he is recorded as a steel manufacturer.

I’m wondering if Maud was born of an extra-marital affair between Edward James Hattersley and Caroline (possible surname Roebuck) but struggling to prove it.

Any other ideas most welcome.

Thanks, Flemming.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 August 20 17:41 BST (UK) »
On the GRO, there is a birth for a Maud Elizabeth Roebuck, Barnsley, S Q. 1879, MMN Hewitt

She died the same year.


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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 August 20 17:44 BST (UK) »
Bearing in mind where her baptism was in 1880 this looks like her in 1891: Maude Roebuck 10, lodger with a James and Mary A Ward in Sheffield - her birthplace shown as Bolton, Lancs.  So, as no doubt raised in Sheffield, understandable why she put her birthplace as Sheffield in 1901.

However, cannot see a likely birth entry for her nor can I find a likely Caroline Roebuck for her mother.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 August 20 18:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks both, and Maude in the 1891 census looks right. Interestingly, there is a dr for Caroline Roebuck in Q2 1881 Sheffield but age 61 years according to FreeBMD, although FS has this as 64 years. Sheffield Indexers has the burial record showing age 64 years, widow of John Roebuck. Perhaps one to dig into (no pun intended).


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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 August 20 20:15 BST (UK) »
Possible Caroline Roebuck br 1860 Rotherham, and then could be her in the 1881 census as 'C Roebuck' age 20, born Sheffield, as a boarder at the Victoria Hotel in North Meols. Can't find her after this.

Another Caroline Roebuck br 1852 Wortley but looks to have married George Hinchcliffe in 1870 Wortley, although haven't found her in the 1881 census.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 August 20 21:20 BST (UK) »

Another Caroline Roebuck br 1852 Wortley but looks to have married George Hinchcliffe in 1870 Wortley, although haven't found her in the 1881 census.

This one remarried to Henry Bailey in 1877 and is Caroline Bailey in 1881: RG11/4614/54/64.
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Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 August 20 21:26 BST (UK) »
Theres a Maud Nadin birth reg Sheffield 1880 (mmn Roberts).  She may have died in Sheffield in 1907 aged 27.

Likely parents Frederick Nadin and Mary Ann Roberts.

Possibly the 1901 census lady?
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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 August 20 21:27 BST (UK) »
Possible Caroline Roebuck br 1860 Rotherham, and then could be her in the 1881 census as 'C Roebuck' age 20, born Sheffield, as a boarder at the Victoria Hotel in North Meols. Can't find her after this.


C Roebuck in 1881 may be Clara Roebuck b Sheffield, 1 in 1861 and 11 in 1871.
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Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 August 20 22:43 BST (UK) »
On the marriage record on findmypast.co.uk,

witnesses are Alfred Bacon and Clara Ellis.

Do you know if they are of any relation to the Nadin family? or possibly they may be to do with the Hattersleys/Roebucks