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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 August 20 09:21 BST (UK) »
Theres a Maud Nadin birth reg Sheffield 1880 (mmn Roberts).  She may have died in Sheffield in 1907 aged 27.

Likely parents Frederick Nadin and Mary Ann Roberts.

Possibly the 1901 census lady?

Maud Nadin in the 1901 census is recorded as Harry Nadin's wife (daughter-in-law of Harry's mother Harriet), and they also have daughter Maud, age 1. There's a marriage for Harry Nadin to Annie Elizabeth Bamford in 1910 in Sheffield which also fits with his first wife dying in 1907 - and this couple are in the 1911 census with daughter Maud.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 August 20 09:26 BST (UK) »
Possible Caroline Roebuck br 1860 Rotherham, and then could be her in the 1881 census as 'C Roebuck' age 20, born Sheffield, as a boarder at the Victoria Hotel in North Meols. Can't find her after this.


C Roebuck in 1881 may be Clara Roebuck b Sheffield, 1 in 1861 and 11 in 1871.

True, and there's also Catherine Roebuck br Q1 1860 Sheffield, and quite a few marriages for 'C* Roebuck' after 1881. Mystery  ???

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 August 20 09:36 BST (UK) »
Catherine Roebuck birth reg Mar qtr 1860 Sheffield was living in Manchester by 1861, and may be the 4 yr old Catherine Roebuck who died in Withington workhouse on 20 November 1864.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 August 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
On the marriage record on findmypast.co.uk,

witnesses are Alfred Bacon and Clara Ellis.

Do you know if they are of any relation to the Nadin family? or possibly they may be to do with the Hattersleys/Roebucks

It seems Alfred and Clara married the same year (1899) in Sheffield. In 1901, he's recorded as 23 (born 1878) and she's recorded as 19 (born 1882). Seems to be a young marriage but can't find a parish record for it. They're similar ages to Harry and Maud, so perhaps they were friends. I've found possible fits for Alfred and Clara in pre-marriage censuses and there doesn't appear to be an obvious link with Harry/Maud in those records.

Alfred and Clara were doing well by 1911 - one daughter and two servants.


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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 August 20 10:00 BST (UK) »
I see that a Caroline Roebuck, 20, “wife” (but no sign of husband) sailed from Liverpool to Philadelphia arriving on 5 July 1880. She had with her an infant, Maria Roebuck, but I can’t easily see a birth for her.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 August 20 10:33 BST (UK) »
I see that a Caroline Roebuck, 20, “wife” (but no sign of husband) sailed from Liverpool to Philadelphia arriving on 5 July 1880. She had with her an infant, Maria Roebuck, but I can’t easily see a birth for her.

That's interesting. Member trees on Ancestry have Caroline (born 1860 Rotherham) recorded as Carrie and/or Cynthia, and marrying Frederick Guite in 1883 in Connecticut. The couple seemed to have lots of children, but no mention of Maria (or Maud), although it shows Caroline had a sister called Maria.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 August 20 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hmmm. Could Maria be Maud, and have made her way back (been sent back) to England by 1891?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 August 20 10:38 BST (UK) »
Yes, I'm wondering that as well. Perhaps new husband wouldn't take the child on?

Some of the Ancestry trees do have Caroline's coupling with Edward Hattersley, and then marriage in the US to Frederick Guite, but others seem to ignore it altogether. One of them also has the entry for 'C Roebuck' in Meols in 1881 pinned to Caroline.

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Re: Who was Maud Roebuck Hattersley b 1880 Sheffield?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 15 August 20 10:41 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the timing of the voyage meant that both the 1880 US and 1881 UK censuses were missed.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)