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WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« on: Monday 17 August 20 10:14 BST (UK) »
I'm seeking help to locate WW1 service records for Albert Graham b. 9 Dec 1893, d. 19 June 1936 at Douglas IOM.  Parents Thomas Graham and Susannah (Susan). Albert enlisted Onchan Douglas Isle of Man 10 Mar 1911. His address was 40 Senna Road and his occupation was confectioner. 

From imuseum.im.......Regimental No.: 1192. Age: 17. Transferred to 16th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment. Struck off 6 March 1915. (MS 00789 Muster roll of the Isle of Man Volunteer Corps)

His brother Albert b 8 Aug 1891, also served - with the Cheshire Regiment and died of wounds 18 Jan 1818.

Thank you,
Margaret
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 August 20 10:36 BST (UK) »
Please remember that some two-thirds of all WW1 Service Records were destroyed in a WW2 Bombing Raid.

And, a minor point ;D
Onchan is (and was) a separate parish to Douglas.
Indeed, before there was a parish of Douglas, the town of Douglas was split between Braddan and Onchan parishes!
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 August 20 10:41 BST (UK) »
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Albert Graham b. 9 Dec 1893

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His brother Albert b 8 Aug 1891, also served

Surely they weren't both called Albert?
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 August 20 11:13 BST (UK) »
I think the brother was Edmond?
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 August 20 20:30 BST (UK) »
Please remember that some two-thirds of all WW1 Service Records were destroyed in a WW2 Bombing Raid.

And, a minor point ;D
Onchan is (and was) a separate parish to Douglas.
Indeed, before there was a parish of Douglas, the town of Douglas was split between Braddan and Onchan parishes!

Thank you KGarrad for your helpful information - IOM is a new research place for me as you can tell. It should read:

Parish: Onchan
Town / Village residence: Douglas
Abode: 40 Senna Road

Margaret :)

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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 August 20 20:34 BST (UK) »
I think the brother was Edmond?

Yes Shaun, it was Edmund.  :-[

Margaret
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EATON/Lon/NSW    
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 20:38 BST (UK) »
I'm seeking help to locate WW1 service records for Albert Graham b. 9 Dec 1893, d. 19 June 1936 at Douglas IOM.  Parents Thomas Graham and Susannah (Susan). Albert enlisted Douglas Isle of Man 10 Mar 1911. His address was 40 Senna Road and his occupation was confectioner. 

From imuseum.im.......Regimental No.: 1192. Age: 17. Transferred to 16th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment. Struck off 6 March 1915. (MS 00789 Muster roll of the Isle of Man Volunteer Corps)

Thank you,
Margaret

I would like to try to see if Albert's service records have survived or not. - would anyone have any ideas about where these records might be found and/or how to search for them using the limited information that I have gleaned please. Would his Regiment Number 1192 be enough? Also can I search somewhere for the Muster Roll perhaps using MS 00789? etc.,
Margaret
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CAREY/France/Kent/NZ 
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 21:00 BST (UK) »
If his WW1 British Army records had survived they would be in the National Archives and viewable on FindMyPast and Ancestry, unless he continued to serve after 1920, in which case they would still be with the MoD.

I wasn't able to find anything definite for him at first pass but I will take another look.

The muster roll information you have and the service number 1192 refer to his time in the Isle of Man Volunteer Corps. If those records survive they will still be in the Isle of Man.

Do you have access to his WW1 medals? If so there will be useful information engraved on the edge.
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Re: WW1 Service Record Albert Graham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 21:20 BST (UK) »
There's a possibility in the medal rolls: Albert Graham 26881 served with 13th Kings Liverpool Regiment, and then the 2nd. Embarked for France 6/12/1915. He's also on the India Medal roll, with a clasp for the Afghanistan campaign in 1919. Curiously Ancestry has transcribed that one as "Battle of Waterloo" 1815 !
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