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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:12 BST (UK) »
I don’t see an image on line

But PRs can be viewed at an LDS library.  Are they open in Australia?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/320697?availability=Family%20History%20Library

 but I can’t help thinking Ann may have been a widow as in 1841
There are 3 sons, 15, 10 & 8, named Miles Bonsall. 
Either that or they finally decided to marry

Rounded ages are
Ann 40
George 50

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYL-HMH

I don't believe the LDS are open.

I was not sure what to make of the names of the children as I had difficulty finding their birth records under either surname. Is it your understanding that they would be Ann Miles children from a previous marriage. Thx.

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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:18 BST (UK) »
Well, it’s what I thought. They can’t be George’s from a previous marriage, I wouldn’t have thought. Because then they wouldn’t have Miles as a Forename. (Unless that’s wife was also a Miles)

If they had been married before 1822, then I would have assumed it was a case of giving sons mother’s maiden name as a forename

I imagined the census taker asking the names of the sons after asking the names of the parents.
Answer James Miles, etc so they became James Miles Bonsall etc.


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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:27 BST (UK) »
Some of this came up last year in
Where are George & Mary Ann [nee WAIN] MILES in 1861
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=812005.0

I found a possible baptism of Henry

There are a couple of baptisms in Market Bosworth to Ann Miles
Henry, 8 February 1825
Eliza, 11 June 1827
But so far no George

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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:30 BST (UK) »
Then JJen got cracking

However I wonder if this is George on the 1841 -

Henry Bonsell   50
Ann Bonsell   40
Henry Miles Bonsell   15
George Miles Bonsell   10
James Miles Bonsell   8

Perhaps Ann is the mother and remarried a 'Bonsell'.

George's son Wiliam was baptised William Bonsir Miles.

There's a marriage of an Ann Miles -

q3 1838 Market Bosworth
Vol 15 Page 213

On the same page is Henry Bonsall


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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:32 BST (UK) »
Then more Chatters pitched in!

By 1851 Ann Bonsell (50 b Polesworth) is a widowed charwoman in Lichfield St, Market Bosworth, and has son James Bonsell, 18 with her.  In a separate household at the same address is (presumably) her son Henry Miles, 26, with wife Susannah 23 and son Henry 10mo.

HO107/2083/120/25.


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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:38 BST (UK) »
Well, thank goodness for long memories I say!

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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 August 20 08:44 BST (UK) »
On the other hand, I don't think that thread was about the origins of Ann :)
So, yes, the marriage cert may be needed to confirm her father's name?
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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 August 20 10:44 BST (UK) »
Re the marriage of Ann Miles to Francis Bates. This was on 21st August 1834 in Polesworth. Thomas Miles was a witness.

The Church Gresley one, on 26 May 1828, is only a transcription with no witness names.

The trees are on Ancestry.

Ann, the wife of Abraham Bates was born 1808 in Oakthorpe, Derbyshire, but none have her parents.
Ann, the wife of Francis Bates, was born in Polesworth, the daughter of Thomas Miles and Elizabeth Hudson, although some have Elizabeth Bentley.
Several have Ann who married Henry Bonsall, but none have her parents.

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Re: Marriage record - Ann Miles. married 1838
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 August 20 14:32 BST (UK) »
Some trees have Ann Miles as nee Atkins.

She married Thomas Miles in Polesworth on 21st September 1820 and had four children - Mary, baptised in Polesworth in 1820, followed by Henry, George and James.

Ann Atkins was baptised in Polesworth on 26th September 1802, the daughter of William and Hannah.
Or, Ann Atkins baptised in Polesworth on 6th November 1797, the daughter of James and Sarah.

The trees may be wrong but only the certificate will have the answer.

David