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can someone help me get a long way back
« on: Wednesday 19 August 20 17:14 BST (UK) »
ive got a broadsheet advert from 1723 saying that despite the death of her husband, William. Kellet, Sarah cardner is still living at the same address in southwark, where she continues to help those plagued with agues etc.

she and her family, rather than her husband, are the ones im interested in...can anyone else help me. find out more, please ::)

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Re: can someone help me get a long way back
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 August 20 17:52 BST (UK) »
Is she Sarah Kellet or Sarah Cardner?

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Re: can someone help me get a long way back
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 August 20 19:33 BST (UK) »
a good question....she lists herself as Sarah cardner, but refers to the late Willian Kellet as her husband, so its anyones guess as to whether they were really married....she says she is still living. in southwark at the sign of the cockerel

for a bit of background information, ive got a seventeenth century token for a grocers in southwark with a picture of a cockerel on. one side and the initials c and underneath tc on the other...presumably the owner or owners

so im wondering if Sarah was a descendant

im also wondering if the surname was really Gardner and whether gs at that time looked very much like cs to our eyes....maybe if Sarah was the one who owned the property, passed down through the family, she was reluctant to marry William...I dont really. know what the law was at that time.

thanks. for your help :)

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Re: can someone help me get a long way back
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 August 20 19:57 BST (UK) »
In this 1891 book, it is transcribed as "Sarah Gardner, late wife of William Kellett"

https://archive.org/details/tradetokensissue02boyn/page/1002/mode/2up?q=kellett
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Re: can someone help me get a long way back
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 August 20 21:26 BST (UK) »
Another version:  "Mrs Sarah Gardiner, late widdow of William Kellitt"

https://tinyurl.com/y6tacs6l
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 August 20 09:16 BST (UK) »
The Mint in Southwark had protected status for debtors which it lost in 1723. Perhaps the year of the announcement is significant for that and Sarah was reassuring her customers that she was continuing to trade in the area even though the Mint had been cleared. William may have died some years previously and she had remarried a Mr Gardner, but she mentioned William's name in the advert because he was well known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_of_the_Mint

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/surrey/vol4/pp141-151#p13
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: can someone help me get a long way back
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 August 20 09:39 BST (UK) »
Possibly she was the widow Sarah Gardner of Lowmans Pond ( which was at Loman Street, Southwark) who died in July 1734 and left a will which was proved in the PCC.
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