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Re: Uniform identification and date Please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 August 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
Wow.
Thank you all so much for the detailed responses amazing information and knowledge.
His father was Pierce Kennedy and William edward Kennedy was born in south dublin union workhouse like many people of the time.
He married a girl called Margaret Daly in july 1922.
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 August 20 16:51 BST (UK) »
Yes lots of detail but the wrong bloke!  We haven't found him yet!

4887 William Kennedy Irish Guards father was Michael at the Roscommon address in the earlier post and no record of marriage on the later RAF record.  He was in India from Jan 1922 to 1926.

What was his mother's name and do you have any other addresses connected with him?

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 August 20 17:44 BST (UK) »
Cheers.
His mothers name was Eliza Kennedy Nee Pomeroy.
He may have lived around Aldborough Square he married a girl from there and his sister lived there too who is my great Grandmother.

He actually married in 1922 and My Great Grandfather who i cut out of the picture with him was a witness at the wedding so maybe this could be a wedding photo as it was common to wear the uniform at the ceremony?

Just found out this info now.
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 August 20 19:29 BST (UK) »
I asked about the mother and addresses because there is a record which would seem to fit.  A William Kennedy joining the army in Dublin as a boy of 14yrs 6 months in Jan 1904.  Born in the parish of St James Dublin.  Mother Eliza and with the address 19 Aldborough Square in 1919 when discharged.  Address on entry was Westburgh (spelling?) St Dublin.  Mother's address amended to read Protestant Hospital South Dublin Union in Oct 1914 (sounds like the workhouse again?)

No doubt under gentle persuasion of the recruiter, he joined and served throughout in the West Riding Regiment.  Their shoulder titles varied -  a simple WR or DofW would sort of fit.
 and this William certainly had a 1914 Star.  Is the photo definitely this chap?

What do you think?

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 August 20 20:05 BST (UK) »
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.
His mother was protestant alright, his father originally RC.
Eliza was in and oit of the Workhouse in Jmes St a lot of Her life yes.
His sister lived at 19 Aldborough Square and he may have lived there for a time alright as he ended up marrying a girl from there.
Address on entry maybe Werburgh St, Off Christchurch there.

It all adds up with the info you sourced. Thank you again.

And if you could just confirm to me that was the British Army.

Many thanks again.
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 August 20 20:50 BST (UK) »
Yes, prior to independence the island of Ireland was all Britain.  The regiment's title at that time was the Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) and your man 7686 Private William Kennedy served with them in UK, in India and in France.  There are a number of records for him on Ancestry (also on Findmypast) including service and pension records.  His medal card can be seen at the National Archives:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5264055  This can be downloaded free at present, you just have to register.

He was in France with 2nd Battalion.  He was wounded and taken prisoner during the Battle of Mons at Wasmes on 24 August 1914 just 10 days after arrival in France..  The battle is described starting here:

https://archive.org/details/3edmilitaryopera01edmouoft/page/100/mode/2up?q=wasmes

His POW record is here:
https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/701770/698/21469/  This shows he was first held at Gustrow.  The listing is at Parchim on 18 April 1918, he was repatriated in Jan 1919.

MaxD

PS  I am not entirely convinced that the picture is him, the shoulder titles don't look right but then they are not very clear.  Others may have thoughts on this?





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« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 August 20 21:23 BST (UK) »
Well done, Max. I'd discounted that one because the West Riding Regiment didn't seem to fit.
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 August 20 21:27 BST (UK) »
Brilliant.
The photo is definitely William Kennedy.

I will read through all this information as soon as possible

Thanks
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 August 20 22:24 BST (UK) »
One of the lads kindly coloured it on the other thread for me looks good
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Kavanagh
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Pomeroy
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Nolan
Doyle