Searching for John Moore Edmondson [ 1861 - 1894 ]

[Charlottesggs]

John Moore Edmondson was born in North Hadrian Wall , England in c 1861 . He died in Ravenswood Australia on the 22nd of February 1894 at the age of 33.
John was the first husband of Charlotte Louisa Abercrombie [1857- 1898 ] , my great - grandmother . I am currently writing an account of her life .
I would appreciate any information regarding the timing of John's departure for Australia . Specifically , I am looking to establish when John arrived in Brisbane , Australia .
I would also appreciate any information on John's early life in England .
Thank You

[Jamjar]

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When and where did he marry Charlotte?

John in court, 1884, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article184996634

Did he have a sister?

Elizabeth Moore Edmondson
Event date: 23-12-1885
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1885/C/146
Spouse: Charles James Milludge

John Moore Edmondson
Event date: 22-2-1894
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1894/C/2193
Mother: -
Father/parent: John Moore Edmondson

Jamjar

[Charlottesggs]

Hello Moderator , My Apologies if I have posted in the wrong section . Please move to the appropriate board .
Thank You ... Charlottesggs

[Jamjar]

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I have asked for it to moved to Cumbria.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Parents’ marriage in England:

Mar 1859 Cockermouth 10b 495
EDMONSON Thomas Moor/Moore
LANCASTER Elizabeth

1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7G3-R2Y

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-CNQ

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-NT3F
1881, daughter Elizabeth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-N17V
1881, daughter Jane: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-KPS8

Births:

EDMONDSON, THOMAS  MOOR mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 443
Death: EDMONDSON, THOMAS  MOOR  0 
GRO Reference: 1860  J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 305

EDMONDSON, JOHN  MOOR mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 443

EDMONDSON, ELIZABETH mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 452
Marriage:
Elizabeth Moore Edmondson
Event date: 23-12-1885
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1885/C/146
Spouse: Charles James Milludge
Deaths:
Elizabeth Moore Milliedge
Event date: 25-5-1894
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1894/C/4092
Mother: Elizabeth Lancaster
Father/parent: Thomas Morehead Edmondson
Charles James Milliedge
Event date: 6-6-1912
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1912/C/4798
Mother: Marrion Lambert
Father/parent: Charles Milliedge
Townsville West End Cemetery
Elizabeth Moore Milliedge 29
Charles James Milliedge 44
Emmeline Milliedge 17mths (24-10-1887 1887/C/3908)

EDMONDSON, JANE mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1865  D Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 446

EDMONDSON, BESSY  MATILDA mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 510
Marriage QLD:
Bessie Matilda Edmondson
Event date: 8-4-1889
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1889/C/778Products available:   
Spouse: Henry Klever
Death:
Bessie Matilda Kluver
Event date: 7-12-1941
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1941/C/4408
Mother: Elizabeth Langcaster
Father/parent: Thomas Moor Edmondson
Gympie Cemetery - CEP-9-261-261A and CEP-9-262
KLUVER Anna 7-1-1894
KLUVER Harry 27-3-1919
KLUVER Henry Thomas Whitmore 10-12-1923
KLUVER Thelma Martha 25-12-1905 5-2-2002 8-2-2002
KLUVER Freiderick 20-3-1898
KLUVER Bessie Matilda 8-12-1941

EDMONDSON, MARY mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 528
Twice married:
Mary Edmonson
Event date: 26-11-1895
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1895/C/2072
Spouse: James Allen
Mary Allen
Event date: 30-7-1912
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1912/C/1396Products available:   
Spouse: John Harry Williams
Death:
Mary Williams
Event date: 8-3-1929
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1929/C/449 
Mother: Elizabeth Lancaster
Father/parent: Thomas Moor Edmondson
Funeral, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article149651886
Obits, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article149645483; this one, last column, says she was born in QLD, but I still think it is Mary, daughter of Thomas: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article149644713

EDMONDSON, TOM mmn LANCASTER 
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 544
Possibles for Tom:
Marriage: I can’t pinpoint one.
Wife married twice after his death:
Lucy Maria Edmondson
Event date: 24-9-1913
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1913/B/13933
Spouse: Henry Stevens
Lucy Maria Stevens
Event date: 24-1-1922
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1922/B/29370
Spouse: Charles Henry Wright
Death:
Tom Edmondson
Event date: 25-3-1913
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1913/B/17359
Mother: -
Father/parent: Thomas Edmondson
South Brisbane Cemetery - Location 8-283
EDMONDSON Tom 27-3-1913
EDMONDSON Thomas 8-9-1936 - this is his son.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Father’s birth:

EDMONDSON, THOMAS  MOOR EDMONDSON    - 
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 25  Page 85

Baptism, mother Esther: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7V59-GPZM

Possible death of his mother:

EDMONDSON, ESTHER  34 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 25  Page 66

1841, maybe: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73K-34F

His father’s death in QLD:

Thomas Moore Edmondson
Event date: 3/12/1913
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1913/B/18654
Mother: Esther Mower
Father/parent: John Edmondson

Death mention, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article176186820

So, they arrived somewhere between 1881 and 1884

They arrived on the Earl Granville 18 April 1883
Thomas 45
Eliza 43
Eliza 19
Jane 17
Bessie 14
Mary 9
Thomas 6

Here is John:

18488880 EDMONDSTON John 21 Earl Granville 18 Apr 1883

I think this may be the death of John’s mother:

Elizabeth Edmonstone
Event date: 27-11-1898
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1898/B/31305
Mother: Elizabeth Elliott
Father/parent: William Lancaster
Toowong Cemetery - Location 2-36-22
EDMONSTONE Elizabeth 28-11-1898

Her christening, 1835: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYHW-W5Y

With her family, 1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7WS-48Y

Servant, 1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKT-JR9

Jamjar

[Charlottesggs]

Hello Jamjar, Thank you for your very comprehensive research and reply . In reply...
# I have been unable to establish a marriage date for John Moore Edmondson and Charlotte Abercrombie . However they had ,in total , six children born between May 1881 and October 1891 . [Two of these children died in their first year ] The first three children were registered with the surname Abercrombie , the remaining three were registered with the surname Edmondson .  This could indicate that some time between April 1885 and August 1887 , ie between the births of the third and fourth children , John and Charlotte entered into a formal religious or civil marriage. However no documentation has been found .
# I am especially interested in the John Moore Edmondson ... who also had a father called John Moore Edmondson .. who you mentioned in your first posting . The date of death is correct . Is there any further information on him ? And is there any indication if the person charged with theft from the Supreme Court was the Father or Son ?
# My wife who assists me with research , had located the John Edmondstone [sic ] who arrived on the Earl Granville in 1883 . However , if he is the John Moore Edmondson , he could not have fathered Charlotte's first two children ... the first of whom was my grandmother ! The family memories and records all insist that John Moore was the father of all six children .
My wife has also commented that there are multitudes of "John Edmondsons " in Australia at that time . There would ,of course , be fewer  John Moore Edmondsons" So I would really like to pursue the leads on the two John Moore Edmondsons who you have located .
My wife also believes that the John Moore Edmondson [son ] may well have been born in Australia , and so the English Birthplace of North Hadrian Wall is misplaced .
cheers ... Charlottesggs

[Charlottesggs]

I will attempt to attach a photo of John Moore Edmondson . First Attempt ... so not sure of procedure .
Charlottesggs

[Charlottesggs]

Hello , I am seeking to re-activate this topic . I am currently revising my earlier draft of this Family History and would like to clarify some matters regarding John Moore Edmondson .
I believe that John was the biological father of my grandmother Elizabeth Alice Abercrombie .
I believe that John entered into a relationship with Charlotte Louisa Abercrombie around August 1880 in Brisbane , Queensland .
 I am looking for documentary evidence that John was in Brisbane at that date .
JamJar has found evidence that he was in Brisbane by 1881 . Is there any evidence of an earlier date?

I am also looking for any information regarding John's arrival in Australia . [ In his Death Certificate ,his wife Charlotte suggests he arrived in Sydney in  mid 1890 ] .
Thank You ... Ron Nuttall