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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 23 August 20 20:48 BST (UK) »
On what basis are you supporting your claim that the virus is much attenuated.?
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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 23 August 20 21:23 BST (UK) »
Mathematics - it is relatively straightforward if you have a basic grasp of statistics to analyse the figures and it is obvious that the deaths and hospitalisations in relation to new infections have fallen dramatically.
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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 23 August 20 21:27 BST (UK) »
Could that not be a result of social distancing and the wearing of masks reducing the spread rather than the virus being attenuated
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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 23 August 20 21:36 BST (UK) »
Highly unlikely! Social distancing is not a new phenomenon and as suggested in this thread it is probably now much less observed. As for masks if they were truly effective in reducing transmission then we would reasonably expect to see a fall in infections where mask wearing has been introduced; this has clearly not been the case.
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday 23 August 20 22:22 BST (UK) »
That does not make sense with your previous post
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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 24 August 20 08:12 BST (UK) »
It makes perfect sense if you study the actual data. That indeed is what is so often overlooked as too many people seem to prefer fear and paranoia over the rather more mundane and much less frightening facts.
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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 24 August 20 11:36 BST (UK) »
As for masks if they were truly effective in reducing transmission then we would reasonably expect to see a fall in infections where mask wearing has been introduced...

Other things being equal, yes. But as you yourself note, they aren't:
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Social distancing is not a new phenomenon and as suggested in this thread it is probably now much less observed.

My observation, and others', is that people seem to be regarding face coverings as an alternative to social distancing, not as an added extra. Possibly all we can say is that social distancing and face coverings appear to have had more or less the same effect.

Because it appears the government want something approaching normal life to resume, they've ordered the use of face coverings in situations where they think social distancing is hampering that aim. They seem not to have realised that when it comes to non-essential activities, people who greatly dislike wearing them are now far less likely to visit shops etc than if proper social distancing without face coverings was still in place.
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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 24 August 20 11:47 BST (UK) »

Because it appears the government want something approaching normal life to resume, they've ordered the use of face coverings in situations where they think social distancing is hampering that aim. They seem not to have realised that when it comes to non-essential activities, people who greatly dislike wearing them are now far less likely to visit shops etc than if proper social distancing without face coverings was still in place.

I can totally relate to this.  I find my limit is three shops and I've had enough of 'mask on/mask off' and don't want to keep it on all the time - especially if the weather is hot as it has been here.

I don't think 'normal' will resume until all restrictions are lifted and even then it will take some time.

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Re: Who remembers social distancing?
« Reply #35 on: Monday 24 August 20 12:00 BST (UK) »
Very true Rishile. We and many of our friends have given up on shopping and will not return while face masks are obligatory. It doesn't help that I wear spectacles and steamed up specs are definitely not to be recommended.
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