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Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« on: Sunday 23 August 20 12:18 BST (UK) »
Good morning,

I've been getting some great help in my search for my Tweedie relatives both in England and Scotland so I wondering if I will be lucky in this request:

Peter Tweedie sometimes known as Peter Ross Tweedy married Martha Ann Mantel in 1865.

I can find them in the 1871 census but then they disappear.

Martha reappears in 1925 under the name Martha Ann Ross Tweedy within the PRO records but I just cannot find either of them in the 1881, 1891 1901 or 1911 censuses.

I have looked and looked but perhaps I have looked so hard I have missed them and they are staring straight at me...

1871 they are living in Mile End New Town
1925 Martha is a widow living at Peckham

I don't think that they had any children.
Peter used to be in the navy but after marriage and in the 1871 census states that he is a tailor (like him father had been).
Martha says she is a tailoress.

Is anyone able to find them?

With kind regards,

Kir

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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 August 20 12:28 BST (UK) »
Can you include birthyears and birthplaces please

Did they marry in England or Scotland?

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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 August 20 12:34 BST (UK) »
Full 1871 details

Peter R Tweedy    30 b St George in the East Middlesex
Martha  25 b Spitalfields Middlesex
RG10 Piece 515 Folio 28
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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 August 20 12:42 BST (UK) »
Sorry, Carole.  I forgot those important bits.

Peter was born 1841 in Spitalfields although sometimes he pretended that he was born in 1839

Martha was born c.1847

They married within the church of St Botolph Bishopsgate in 1865.  Peter calls himself Peter Ross Tweedy from now on.  (Ross was his mother's maiden name)



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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 August 20 12:43 BST (UK) »
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Martha reappears in 1925 under the name Martha Ann Ross Tweedy within the PRO records

Died 13.3.1925 Surrey according to probate entry - address 47 Crofton Rd Peckham.  Have you downloaded a copy of her will?
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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 August 20 13:05 BST (UK) »
On the Surrey ER's for 1934 - 1938 is an entry for a Peter Tweedily.  The surname is spelt the same on each of the separate entries.

However - no birth or death in England for that name and your Peter would have been in his 90's by then

EDIT

DUH -  Martha was a widow when she died  in 1925 so how can it be Peter on a 1934 ER ::)

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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 August 20 13:56 BST (UK) »
Peter Tweedie sometimes known as Peter Ross Tweedy married Martha Ann Mantel in 1865.

Think they married 1863--just being picky!

John

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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 August 20 15:45 BST (UK) »
Martha Ann is in about 40 trees on Ancestry.

I wonder if any one of them has got the missing censuses.

Added:  Looks like a No.

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Re: Peter and Martha Ann Tweedy/Tweedie
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 August 20 16:28 BST (UK) »
On the probate Martha is living at 47 Crofton Road Peckham, and probate to Eliza Morgan wife to John Charles Morgan.

On the ER for 1924 for 47 Crofton Road are living Eliza, Jack Edward and John Charles (J) Morgan.  They are there in other years 1922, 1926 etc, 1925 not available?