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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 August 20 16:41 BST (UK) »
Correction:
Violet & Vernon are from another family.
Must be 2 Williams/Howell marriages.
It also means we're 1 missing as we're now down to 8.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 August 20 17:38 BST (UK) »
The line up looks like these:
William J died 1887
Annie
John C
Esther   
William
Thomas
Arthur
(Mary) Emma
Maggie
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 August 20 08:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you. When you’ve been looking- did you notice the date of birth for David and where was he born!!

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 August 20 11:03 BST (UK) »
Depending on which census you look at he was born 1860 Neath (1901)
or Pontrhydyfen (1911) abt. 4mls. away.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 August 20 12:25 BST (UK) »
Vernon Stanley Williams born 1890 has his mother as Elizabeth on the WW1 papers on ancestry

Are you sure he's the same family?  (there may be two Vernon Stanley Williams the same age in Glamorgan)

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #14 on: Friday 28 August 20 13:49 BST (UK) »
Is there any real evidence that William was actually born in Pontypridd?

I keep wondering about this chap:
GRO Births:
WILLIAMS, WILLIAM  HENRY       mmn FOWLER   
 1896  S Quarter in LLANDILOFAWR  Volume 11A  Page 1127 
 
He's on the 1901 with his widowed father,David and grandparents Lettice and Phillip in Bettws.
Piece: 5108; Folio: 86; Page: 13

Same place in 1911 but father has re-married to Eleanor JOHN.

The father-David-seems to be on the 1939 register as living in Tonyrefail. The only snag is that David seems to have been a bootmaker up to 1911 .

Are there no addresses at all on the marriage cert??

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 August 20 13:52 BST (UK) »
Hi yes we have an address for William Henry in 1918 as 18 Meyler street, Tonyrefail.

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #16 on: Friday 28 August 20 13:55 BST (UK) »
Blimey I can see why you think it could be!

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Re: Williams family in tonyrefail
« Reply #17 on: Friday 28 August 20 14:08 BST (UK) »
Bit of extra information on the certificate is that William Henry Williams profession state: Driver REA 279509 coelier - excuse the spellings only the handwriting isn’t the easiest to make out. REA could be R ? A the middle letter is a little difficult to make out.