Johanna McKay birth 1882 not found, confusion re Mother

[flst]

possible sighting of Margaret and both kids Johana And John
1891 on dumbarton census johana's age is right John and Margarets out
sorry i m out of credits but worth a look

Peggy & Johanna are at Auchmore, Lochs in 1891, as per my previous post. 
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[raonull4]

hi
  there should also be a john with them Margaret had 2 children Johana and John. john Born 1845

[raonull4]

sorry that should be 1885, Margaret ( Peggy) was born 1856

[flst]

I am aware that there was a John born in 1885. He is not there with his mother but, did he die before 1891 or is he with his paternal family?
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P.S.Just checked, & there is a death in Lochs of a John Mckay who died in 1886 before his first birthday.

[raonull4]

yes that could be him

[maggbill]

Hi Again FSLT and Raonull4,

Have found the death of John McKay 13 Dec 1884 - (registered 23 Jan 1885) - age 8 days, cause "unknown - 3 days no medical attendant", mother Margaret McKay, domestic servant. Informant mother - "her mark".  So could be ours.....  Interestingly on same page there is a 24 year old fisherman (one of the many McIvers), and a 21 year old teacher, both dying of Tuberculosis.. Life sure was hard. Have also checked out McKays/ Dumbarton census 1891 - but definitely not the family looking for ie. father Patrick, spirit merchant - lots of children including two medical students, a marine engineer, and a Teacher of music - and Johanna age 10 and John 8 both scholars.  Definitely a different "social strata" from my McKays of Lochs.     I have realised over this past week or two, delving into the Isles side of things, that my knowledge of Scottish genealogy is sadly lacking.  Have been doing my own tree for years, but it has been all Scottish/Irish/Glasgow based.  And I thought that my husbands was all NE - in particular Aberdeen/Elgin - but this foray into the McKay side of his family has proved very interesting.  Love to find out what life was like - Lots of "highlanders/Islanders" came down to Glasgow for work, but it never dawned on me that such a big percentage of them only spoke Gaelic!

[raonull4]

hi
   starting to look like your now on the rght track for Magaret and Johana,
the next question is where did both go to between 1891 and 1901,
the grandparents died Mary MacIver 1892 John MacKay 1896,
the croft would then be passed to some else,
in the case 9 Achmore it passed to Donald MacKay, 
Margarets brother who was married to Catherine MacLeod,
Margaret had 5 siblings 2 of whom married MacLeods,

so as you stand now in regards to Johana born 1882, 9 Achmore
1891 she appears to still be in lochs with her mother
1896 the grandfather dies the croft pass's to Donald
1901 question where is Margaret ( Peggy )  and Johana
still on the island or moved on,

all names you ve found on certs are names connected to the familly,
North lochs historical society may  have some answers for you,
croft books also but in general once someone left the island info on them
stops unless they return,
i have a yearly mag sent to me every year and over the years there has
been photos of Mackays of Achmore published i ll check back over them
as the number of Achmore each person in the photo is listed underneath
so in the invent that Johana is the one your after you may end up with a photo
of an ancestor from lochs,

good luck and don t give up walls were built to be knocked down

[raonull4]

this wont be much help in your search
but if found it very interesting
attachment from croft history

[wivenhoe]

Newspapers can be a useful source of information. To that end, addresses are also useful.

What addresses do you see on the marriage certificate, 1914?

What address do you see for this family at Census 1901 and Census 1911?

What address do you see for death of Johanna STEWART, died 1953.

Donald STEWART died, 1916.......and his wife is applying for a pension three years later?

I am not seeing death, 1916, for Donald STEWART at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site.

Can you identify him please.....service number, burial place etc

Can you identify the children born to this couple....names and birth year.

Was Donald STEWART in the Army at the start of the War?. If he enlisted for the War, what was his civilian occupation.