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Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« on: Monday 31 August 20 00:25 BST (UK) »
I have a marriage register for my 6x great grand parents, James Renwick and Agnes Scot, who were married in the Parish of Temple on Nov 25, 1915.  I can't figure out the words before James and the words after married. I outlined the event in yellow.


I would be very grateful for any or all help.  Thank you so much.
   

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 August 20 00:44 BST (UK) »
 The word before  James   is Likewise. the witnesses are Wm ( William ) Kinnaird and Ja:Rule
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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 August 20 04:26 BST (UK) »
I'd agree with orkrad

Likewise James Renwick and
Agens Scott were married
Witnesses Wm Kinnaird & Ja: Rule


So the same day as the couple above them - November 25th.

'Ja:' will be an abbreviation for James.

I'm presuming you have realised there is a lovely long paragraph about them further up the page?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 August 20 04:44 BST (UK) »
Just in case.


October 28th

Intima(ti)on of a purpose of marri
=age betwixt James Renwick and
Agnes Scot both in this paroch
was given & they not having two
dollars to pay in pledge th(a)t w(i)t(h) in
fourtie dayes they shall fulfill the
bond of marriage & in the meantime
carry themselves as single per
=sons Rott Winsone in Outterstowne
gave ? obliga(ti)on to make the s(ai)d
pledges furthcoming & effectual
to this less: in case the s(ai)d parties
transgress the s(ai)d conditions
Witnesses Geo: Brown & Wm: Brown 


'?' this may be an amount of money, but from the context it would appear to mean something like 'his' obligation

Rott = Robert I would think
I think his surname is Winsone

'less: ' = lesson?
Anybody know any different?

The kirk always knew how to get revenue in! ;)

Added:
Just re-read the title of your post which says 'Two documents..........',
so I see you already knew this other part was about them.
In which case you may have already transcribed it! Ah well, all good practice.  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 August 20 04:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the help, Okrad and Goldie61.  As I look at the words now deciphered, I can
make out the words.  Good to know that Ja. is short for James because there are
8 of them in my Scottish ancestors.  Thank you again.
I just saw the third response.

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 August 20 05:27 BST (UK) »
Picking up a coupe of matters queried by goldie:

...gave yr obliga(ci)(o)n...       [= their]

I think Ro(ber)tt may be Wmsone = W(illia)msone

He appears to be from Huntlicoat.

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 August 20 06:04 BST (UK) »
Picking up a coupe of matters queried by goldie:

...gave yr obliga(ci)(o)n...       [= their]

I think Ro(ber)tt may be Wmsone = W(illia)msone

He appears to be from Huntlicoat.

Ah, wondered what that hieroglyph was.
Good call with Wmsone being 'Williamson' HD.
I completely failed to see the two words after his name! You're right of course - he's from Huntlicoat.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 August 20 15:45 BST (UK) »
I do have two documents but the second one was too large and wouldn’t load.  I’ll try again
after I trim the file down today.  So lovely to read all of your comments.
Bev

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Re: Two Renwick documents from OPRs
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 August 20 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hi, here is my second OPR document which is the baptism of the son of James Renwick and Agnes Scot (or is it Scott?).  I know that the baby, named James, was born on Sept 9, 1717 in the town of Ancrum? in the Parish of Temple.  The event is circled in yellow again, and now to see if the file will load.