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Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« on: Monday 31 August 20 07:03 BST (UK) »
I am searching for the birth of an ancestor who was born in Victoria in 1860.
I have the name of the child, and the parents, but am wondering about where.

STOTTWilliam Nighting
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Mary Ann
APPLETON
<Unknown Family Name>, Robert Nighting
MTBL  This is where in Victoria?
1860
7499/1860

I have tried to find out from the Victorian BDM site, but I cannot work out how to operate the website to find out.

Any help would be very gratefully accepted.

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 August 20 07:18 BST (UK) »
MTBL

MT .... Mount

BL ... Blowhard or Blackwood.

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:25 BST (UK) »
Marriage:

210/1859 STOTT Robert Nightingale to APPLETON Mary Ann

Just to tidy it up:

7499/1860 STOTT William Nighting mother APPLETON Mary Ann father Robert Nighting MTBL

19752/1861 STOTT Charles Frederick mother APPLETON Mary Ann father Robert Nighting B’WOOD

Looks like it is Mt BLACKWOOD, 2nd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66334556

Added: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwood,_Victoria


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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:37 BST (UK) »


Mount Blackwood

Use VIC BDM and search births -

1860 to 1860 ....for family name use an asterisk....place name MTBL...

Find a birth and use that to find a family tree on Ancestry....which shows birthplace.....Mount Blackwood.

I do not think there is a list of standard abbreviations used. I suspect that there was consistency with the one recorder while ever that person was recording births.

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:50 BST (UK) »
I have two VIC BDMs in my collection.  one is for a birth at Mt Blowhard.   :)  The other is for a marriage at Ballarat.  :)  They walked from there to Tilpa NSW  :) ... and according to family folklore, the menfolk swam across the creeks and rivers on horseback, to show how safe it was, and then the womenfolk still were 'fretting'. 

Found this via google just now.

https://bdmabbreviations.steveparker.id.au/

not sure if it is already listed in RChat's Vic Resources https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369963.0

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:51 BST (UK) »
The father's name was Robert Nightingale STOTT

News item places him at Mt Blackwood area in 1859

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66334556

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 August 20 08:58 BST (UK) »
I see Robert with family returned to UK:

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-V2ST

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QYJ3-H2M

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9K9-WBG

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4M5-BBY

STOTT, ANNIE  WARBURTON mmn APPLETON 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 394
Married:
Dec 1887 Blackburn 8e 549
SLEE Edwin
STOTT Annie Warburton
Deaths:
SLEE, EDWIN  70 
GRO Reference: 1930  D Quarter in MANCHESTER SOUTH  Volume 08D  Page 99
SLEE, ANNIE  WARBURTON  70 
GRO Reference: 1933  S Quarter in MANCHESTER SOUTH  Volume 08D  Page 80
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W7MJ-RMMM
Burials:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1V-DMM7
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1V-D7K1
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QB4D-9ZM
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9JK-LKT
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBX-8HR
Children:
SLEE, ROBERT  NIGHTINGALE mmn STOTT 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 381
Married: Jun 1921 Chorlton    8c 1555   
SLEE Robert N
BARBER Dorothy W N
Deaths:
Sep 1969 N.E.Cheshire 10a 966
SLEE Dorothy Winifred N 27 April 1895
Jun 1970 Bucklow 10a 331
SLEE Robert Nightingale 24 September 1894   
Children:
Sep 1923 Chorlton 8c 1029
SLEE M D female married Jun 1950 Manchester 10e 345 SLEE M D to ROSS H
Jun 1928 Manchester S. 8d 54
SLEE P W female - married Dec 1949 Manchester 10e 376 SLEE P W to MILLER J G
Sep 1929 Manchester S. 8d 36
SLEE G W male - married Mar 1964 ASHTON 10B 164 SLEE G W to BURGESS A M

SLEE, EDWIN  SHEPPARD mmn STOTT 
GRO Reference: 1898  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 929
Married:
Sep 1923 Chorlton 8c 1903
SLEE Edwin S
BURGESS Norah M
Deaths:
SLEE, EDWIN  SHEPPARD  50 
GRO Reference: 1948  D Quarter in WATFORD  Volume 04B  Page 269
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W7D2-YDT2
SLEE, NORAH  MARGARET  1890 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q1/1988 in STROUD  (4871)  Volume 22  Page 2428
Child:
Jun 1926 Barton I. 8c 92
SLEE Monica F N mmn BURGESS
Married:
Dec 1974 CHELTENHAM 22 1238
HEIGHES John
SLEE Monica F N
Died:
HEIGHES, MONICA  FRANCES NORAH    1926 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2003 in Bournemouth  (4271B)  Reg B31D  Entry Number 224

STOTT, JOYCE  AMBROSE mmn APPLETON 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in CHORLEY  Volume 08E  Page 436

Deaths:

STOTT, ROBERT  NIGHTINGALE  67 
GRO Reference: 1893  J Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 265

STOTT, CHARLES  FREDERICK JAMES  33 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 254
Did not marry.

STOTT, MARY  ANN  80 
GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 247

STOTT, WILLIAM  NIGHTINGALE  62 
GRO Reference: 1922  D Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 398
Did not marry.

STOTT, JOYCE  AMBROSE  69 
GRO Reference: 1934  J Quarter in FYLDE  Volume 08E  Page 777
Did not marry.
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W79R-4B6Z

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 00:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for all your help.

I simply did not know where to find the information you have generously provided.

I will go through the information you have provided for me. I did find that he was a commercial traveler in 1871 in Blackburn, Lancashire, and was wondering how he came to be in Australia to get married.

It would appear that he was chasing gold, not too uncommon in those days. I could not find a record for his travel to or from Australia, but will have another look when I have gone through all your information.

Again, many thanks for all your help.

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Re: Explanation of Victorian BDM "place"
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 06:32 BST (UK) »
Age is a little out, but could be him:

Age  Fiche     Month  Origin  Page  Port            Ship           Year
30     74        AUG   ENG    8       B      MORNING STAR   1854      STOTT, ROBERT

His christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWNG-32Z

1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQPN-NGY

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRY-KV1


‘I did find that he was a commercial traveler in 1871 in Blackburn, Lancashire’

I can’t see the family in 1871.

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