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Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« on: Monday 31 August 20 12:58 BST (UK) »
Can a death be found in US or Canada please?

Renould Rennie Marx
1888–
BIRTH 24 DEC 1888 • Willesden, HENDON, Middlesex, London, England,
To USA/Canada IN 1937
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
O'HANLON
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 August 20 13:50 BST (UK) »
Have you info that says he died in 1937 ?

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 August 20 13:55 BST (UK) »
Is this the same guy - Shows on New York Passenger List - Southampton to New York on the SS New York - occupation engineer  Renold Marx - 1889 - aged 48 years - married - arriving 30 October 1937.
Wife Mrs Marx The Windmill Arkley - intended visit 60 days.

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 August 20 14:16 BST (UK) »
Is this the same guy - Shows on New York Passenger List - Southampton to New York on the SS New York - occupation engineer  Renold Marx - 1889 - aged 48 years - married - arriving 30 October 1937.
Wife Mrs Marx The Windmill Arkley - intended visit 60 days.

Sandra

Sandra, many thanks.
If intended visit was 60 days, can their further travels be found. 

incoming passenger in 1936 from Marseilles as an Engineer but no wife,

Outgoing passenger from UK not found. Perhaps these lists stop before 1937 or perhaps he left from Marseilles France?

I did not have his marriage. I shall be interested to find wife's name.

Is 'The Windmill Arkley' the name of the ship or their home address please?

Mark
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
O'HANLON
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 August 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
Possible ? Wrong birth date -  :-\ California, Passenger and Crew Lists - Rener R Marks
Birth Date 27 Apr 1890 London, England - aged 68 years
Arrival Date 14 Aug 1958 - Port of Arrival San Francisco, California. Passenger boarded London.
Airline TW
USA address - 1518 S Wilton Pl. Los Angeles.

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 August 20 14:39 BST (UK) »
Can't see anything on the SSDI (social security death index) but this wasn't fully up and running until 1963.
Unfortunately, no death records online or available in Canada for that time frame.

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 August 20 16:01 BST (UK) »
First off, do you have his 1912 arrival at Detroit, Michigan?
contact in England: his father Robert, 133-9 Finsburg [something], London
destination: friend H L Kutler, Hamilton, Ohio

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3Y-TSY2

familysearch is free, but you need to set up an account.

2) I see you have a tree on ancestry that says his mother's name was Neuburger. Did you notice on the outgoing passenger list in 1937 that there is a William Neuerburg on the same sheet? Is this a relative whose name is misspelled or coincidence? Mr Neuerburg is listed just below Renould on the incoming passenger manifest, and they were headed to the same hotel. However, they did not get their passports on the same day, nor were they intending to stay in NYC for the same length of time. -- Just mentioning it in case you want to take a look.

3) The Windmill Arkley was his home address. Here is a transcript of the whole thing and a link to the image. Again this is a free site, but you need an account:


left Southhampton 22 October 1937, arrived New York 30 October 1937, on the SS New York, Renold Marx, 48, male, engineer, able to read English, French, German, nationality: Great Britain, born in London, last residence: London

Nearest relative in England: wife, Mrs Marx, The Windmill Arkley, Herts, England

Final destination: London, passage paid by employer, had been in US before in 1913 for 6 weeks, In N.Y., destination in US: Waldorf Astoria Hotel, NYC, intends to stay 60 days and return to England, does not intend to become a citizen of the US

physical description: 5 feet 6 inches, fair complexion, grey hair, gray eyes, no distinguishing marks of identification

traveling with, maybe: William Neuerburg, 42, a manager, born in Uccle, Belgium, last residence: London
sister: Mrs G Dawson Harris, 47 Queen's Gate, S.W.7

https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/passenger-details/czoxMjoiOTAxNzU5NDIxMTkwIjs=/czo4OiJtYW5pZmVzdCI7

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That done, here's why we can't find his death:
London Gazette 25 November 1938
Notice is hereby given ...
on the 23rd of November 1938 Renold Marsh of "The Windmill" Arkley near Barnet in the county of Hertford Engineer a natural born British subject renounced and abandoned the names of Renould Marx otherwise usually known as Renold Marx.

.. Solicitors for the said Renold Marsh

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/34574/page/7495/data.pdf

can't post the image since this is the lookup board? any suggestions anyone?

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so here is his death, from freebmd.org.uk

Deaths Sep 1972   (>99%)
Marsh    Renold    24De1888    St.Marylebne    5d   1779

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 August 20 16:10 BST (UK) »
This refers to Arkley Windmill.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnet_Gate_Mill  I wonder if this was his home?  https://www.townandcountrymag.com/uk/property/a26821595/windmill-house-arkley/

Don't know if it's your guy, but there's a Renold Marx who married an Amelia D.E. Harris in Cookstown, Ireland in April/May/June 1919.

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Re: Death date? Renould Rennie Marx. born 24 Dec 1888 Hendon, London, UK
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 August 20 16:22 BST (UK) »
This refers to Arkley Windmill.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnet_Gate_Mill  I wonder if this was his home?  https://www.townandcountrymag.com/uk/property/a26821595/windmill-house-arkley/

looks like it was

 "History of the Arkely Windmill"
 07 June 1956 (Creation)
 
 Cutting from 'Barnet Press and News' describing a lecture given at Arkely Mill by Rex Wailes in honour of Major and Mrs. R. Marsh, on whose grounds the mill stood. The article also provides a brief history of the mill from details from the lecture.

https://catalogue.millsarchive.org/history-of-arkely-windmill

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War Office, 19 June 1919
'the following are .. decorations and medals awarded '
presented by the president of the French Republic
Croix de Guerre
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31409/supplement/7801/data.pdf

Lieutenant (acting Captain) Renould Marx, M.C., Royal Field Artillery
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31409/supplement/7804/data.pdf