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Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« on: Tuesday 01 September 20 02:18 BST (UK) »
I have found an online tree which says that Annie Keen died in Salford, Lancashire, England in 1932. She was born in Coagh, Co. Tyrone, Ireland in 1870 to Andrew Johnston and Nancy Wallace. She married George Harry Brown about 1893, according to this tree, even though daughter Annie Johnston Brown was born Sept 29,1891 in Manchester. Then she married Robert Bernard Keen abt 1906 or at least he was a significant other. Then she died in 1932 but I can't find her death and am not sure of exact date. Robert died sometime in 1935.
thanks for any help with these deaths. Would the parents be listed at that time?
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 05:40 BST (UK) »
Goodness, these are elusive aren't they!

I thought I would start with the less common name first but....

I do not see an English death for Robert Bernard KEEN at all. There is a 1935 death for a John Bernard KEEN and I cannot help wondering if some confusion has arisen as a result. It's not him. he was only 8 years old.

in 1901 it looks as though this Robert is in London, a Hostler, Buck yard. born "Bucks ford Aylesbury"
He is lodging with George & Matilda Whitney, but Matilda also born Bucks ford Ayelsbury and is nee KEEN.

Looking at the family of Annie JOHNSON/BROWN and Robert Bernard KEEN it seems all children are registered under BROWN
I think this one is the youngest one, known as KEEN 

BROWN Robert.  1904 D qtr, in Salford vol 08D page 129 MMN Johnson  (ie not the Liverpool one the tree has linked. That one has a MMN of AUGHTON)

so is the 1906 marriage to Ellen WARD of Robert Bernard KEEN, the RBK b 1882, Northamptonshire? because surely if you are acknowledging a child as yours that was born in 1904 you wouldn't leave and marry someone else and then go back in time to have Frank KEEN mmn JOHNSON in the J qtr of 1909. (he died 1910)

(Although human beings are full of surprises  ;D)


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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 08:31 BST (UK) »
Hi....

  Ford Aylesbury Bucks would be Dinton with Ford. Ford is a small hamlet.
 So the 1901 Robert is Robert bap 19 Nov 1880 father Timothy mother Mary Ann (Southam)in Dinton.
 Birth registered 2nd qt 1879. Family are in Dinton in 1881 1891. Robert in 1911 is in Woolwich.
 Robert Bernard born Aylesbury is the son of Frank and Elizabeth birth registered 1880 qt1. They are in Aston Warwickshire in 1891.
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 08:40 BST (UK) »
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
  To show there are 2 Robert Keens  born in "Aylesbury'  one plain Robert
With sister in 1901 as you found he's in Woolwich in 1911. Hes born Ford/ Dinton. The other is Robert Bernard Keen born Aylesbury he's in Warwickshire in 1891 plain Robert is in Dinton Ford in 1891.
 The 1906 Salford marriage...
 Robert Bernard Keen 26 railway porter bach of 6 West Mason St. Father Frank lift engineer.
 Ellen Ward 18 laundress spin of 101 Hope St father George labourer.

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Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 08:49 BST (UK) »
Ah, right, sorry 😐
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 08:51 BST (UK) »
 the 1881 census has sister Matilda with Robert in Dinton as well.
 

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 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 09:13 BST (UK) »
As per the 1911:

BROWN, GEORGE  HARRY mmn JOHNSON 
GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 180

Maybe: BROWN, JOHN  EDWARD mmn JOHNSON 
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 105

BROWN, ROBERT mmn JOHNSON 
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 129

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Re: Death of Annie Keen, formerly Brown, nee Johnston, 1932
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 09:34 BST (UK) »
Baptism for George says he was born 14 March 1895

Having trouble finding anything in the GRO though
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