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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 02 September 20 17:30 BST (UK) »
Think on later census he might be married, looks as if he died in 1934, it is a nuisance all these names that pop in and out

1871 might help but I have to go to feed the other half, will hope to be back later

LM

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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 September 20 14:45 BST (UK) »
Hi their is a Moore family at Scotch St Court, Whitehaven, headed by an Ann Moore 50
Amongst the other chilfren, is an Edwin b June qtr 1861 Whitehaven mmn DUER
And a Sarah Jane b c 1853 Carlisle mmn DEWAR
Anne Maria Moore 1850 Carlisle mmn DUERS
Census ref RG10/5255/41/28
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PS only here to help, never look at how many stars I have!
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:31 BST (UK) »
Oh gosh, more to confuse us with spellings

LM

Never taken notice of the stars until it was mentioned, will we get the jackpot when we reach the grand total! Just a thought
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:49 BST (UK) »
In 1861, the Moore famly, are headed by John Moore b c 1821 Dalston
12, George Street, Whitehaven
Census ref RG09/3948/39/27
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 03 September 20 16:22 BST (UK) »
1851
John Moore 30
Ann 30
Anne Maria 6mths
Martha 10, possible maiden name DIVINE
Mary 8
George 6 poss MMN DEWARS
Joseph  4, not sure if this is Joseph Thompson in which case no MMN

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
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Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 03 September 20 16:44 BST (UK) »
Looks as if by 1871 Ann was a widow

Ann 50
Anne Maria 20
Sarah Jane 18
Joseph 13
Mary Scott, widow poss dau Mary born 1843
Edwin 9
Francis 6

So far can't find a marriage with John to Ann but with her maiden name changing at will it makes it difficult

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 03 September 20 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi again think Ann Maria Moore marries a Cron/Crone, in 1881 Edwin Moore is  with the Cron family?
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 03 September 20 19:48 BST (UK) »
LM we’ve still got a long way to go to catch up with KB’s stars  :D

I’m still trying to find a marriage for a John Hodgson to Henrietta Ronson
to check if she’s the correct person but I’ve drawn a blank  ???

I have found widowed John on 1911 census with his four children, if John & Henrietta married it should be around 1871  :-\ number of children 8 (2 died)

1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X72M-RT2
John Hodgson   Father 58   Dalston Carlisle, Cumberland farm  labourer
Robert Hodgson   Son   29   Newton Carlisle
Elizabeth Hodgson   Daughter   26   Newton Carlisle
Sarah Hodgson   Daughter   24   Carlisle, Cumberland
John Thomas Hodgson   Son   20   Carlisle, Cumberland
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Re: Seeking RONSON (Dalston) family history
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 03 September 20 21:50 BST (UK) »
My goodness - thank you for all your researching.  I have been printing off all your messages and doing numerous family tree scribblings and have realised that I'll need a roll of lining paper to review it all !!   

My interest began with a quest to find out about Henrietta who I believe must be my Great Grandma, in order to find out more about Emily's early life.    I've sent off for Henrietta's death certificate and I will investigate her baptism records, thanks to you all.   I'm muckstruck though!   Could I just set out what I'm understanding so far - which could so easily be way off the mark.

I'll refer to RONSON every time rather than the other variations of the spelling.



WILLIAM RONSON (b1812) marries MARY PICKERBY RONSON (nee Moor?) (b1820)

 1851 census there's :

HANNAH PICKERBY RONSON  (2)
MARY ELISA (4)
SARAH ANN (10)    which confirms Keyboard 86 findings in the 1841 Census where she was 0.
JOHN (11)

Henrietta hasn't been born yet, she comes along in 1855.


1861 Census.
Henrietta is 6.

1871 Census
She's living with her unmarried Uncle ANTHONY RONSON and his sister ..   Who is he then?

1881 Census
Henrietta is "with" JOHN HODGSON and has
ELIZABETH (4)
ROBERT (1)
[Meanwhile My Grandma Emily is living with her grandparents]

1891 Census
[Emily aged 16 is now a lodger with the Thompson family]
Henrietta still with HODGSON but listed as HANNAH (just coincidence that her sister was Hannah, but she died in 1864) and she now has the following children:

*ELIZABETH (14)
William ROBERT (12) (this is presumably the ROBERT mentioned in 1881)
*MARY ELIZABETH (is she the same one as above ie.(14)
SARAH (4)
JOHN (2)


[Meanwhile My Grandma EMILY has got married to my Grandad in December quarter 1894]
   
1901 Census
Henrietta still with John Hodgson and has
ELIZH (20)  (can't work out if this age could be right...shouldn't she be 24?)
SARAH (14)
JOHN T (12)

[Hope you are all still awake !!!!)


OK, if that is basically right.....then I'm not sure I am going to follow up on the Moor (Moore) side and this Francis chap.   I think I'd get too distracted from my objective if I start to follow "that lot" (for want of a more respectful way of putting it)!

I'd be grateful for any comments as to whether I've understood and linked everything properly and if so, this puts me in a really good position now to move on to my next bit of the family !!!    Sorry - that means  I'll be back !!   :o

Thank you for all your help so far, it's been invaluable. I just wish I knew more about the people and their lives rather than statistics - but hey ho.  It's just so good to have my Mum's handwritten memories and photos which add such a lovely dimension to all this.

Signing off....
There's another cold cup of tea waiting !!!