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1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« on: Thursday 03 September 20 13:35 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
19081941
BIRTH 13 OCT 1908 STRAND London
DEATH 25 FEB 1941 Montreal Hospital, Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Is there a 'cause of death' report for this young mother?
Source:Andrews Newspaper Index Cards.
Is 'died suddenly' a euphemism for suicide?

How did she arrive in Canada as her 3 young children travelled separately in June 1940 with 3 young BARING children and their mother
Mary Cecil BARING nee GREY
19072002
BIRTH 5 MAY 1907 St George Hanover Square, London


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HENRY, Sligo
POPE, London docklands,
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 September 20 13:48 BST (UK) »

Is 'died suddenly' a euphemism for suicide?


I would not say so, I have seen that phrase used often in obituaries. 
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 September 20 13:51 BST (UK) »
I agree with rosie. You could look for the birth of a baby about that time....though of course it may have been an accident or illness.

I think in those times people were less open about causes of illness and unlikely to mention the cause of death in public media.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
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87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 September 20 14:03 BST (UK) »
This obituary mentions that she had only just reached Canada where her children have been staying from a visit to her husband.

There is a passenger record in 1940 to the USA for her.     
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 September 20 14:23 BST (UK) »
Civil registration only began in Quebec in 1994 so there will only be a burial record. The image of this burial record can be seen in the Drouin Collection on the Ancestry website if you you have a sub that gives you access to Canadian records. If not, it should also be available on the free familysearch website.

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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:14 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you all.
The New York passenger arrivals appears to show her In Transit from Durban South Africa but resident Egypt.
I see at thepeerage website another baby son listed
  John Alexander George Dawnay was born on 28 March 1938. He was the son of Lt.-Col. Ronald Dawnay and Lady Elizabeth Katherine Grey. He died on 14 March 1961 at age 22, unmarried.

Perhaps this son was born in Egypt?
I now see mother and son are on the 1939 register.
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
POPE, London docklands,
PRIDDY, Dorset,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
RIPPINGILLE
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:28 BST (UK) »
There was a son Andrew Charles Dawnay born 89 Nov 1934 died 23 August 1998 St Germans Cornwall.

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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 September 20 15:30 BST (UK) »
JAG Dawnay is with his mother and siblings in 1939
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Re: 1941 'Sudden death' in Montreal of Elizabeth Katherine DAWNAY nee GREY
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 September 20 16:33 BST (UK) »
Did the two boys have a sister born 1936 and registered Westminster - 1 a 536 - mothers maiden surname Grey -  "M"
Appears on a 1940 passenger list with Andrew

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According to anc  - Mary married in 1974 and died 24 March 2001 Antony House, Torpoint, Cornwall.
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