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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 08 September 20 16:00 BST (UK) »
My reply to your reply no 25. Please forgive my ignorance but where did you get Thomas Waller from. Is it who is mentioned in William Wallers will and lived in NZ?

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 08 September 20 16:07 BST (UK) »

Robert Waller from Cliffin Cavan married Matilda Johnston 1854.


The townland is Cleffin.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/castlerahan/killinkere/killinkere/cleffin/

Matilda 1871 born in Cleffin.

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 08 September 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
Am working through the info. Have not gone through page 3 of this chat yet.
Can I ask 're William Wallers will. Could some one clarify the street that is mentioned for Margaret Russell and the place for George Dowd. Thank you.

'...my said wife's niece Margaret Russell the wife of George Russell of Upton Street Launceston...'
'...George Dowd of East Tamar in Tasmania...'

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 08 September 20 21:51 BST (UK) »
My reply to your reply no 25. Please forgive my ignorance but where did you get Thomas Waller from. Is it who is mentioned in William Wallers will and lived in NZ?

From post #19:

Another son: 26513/1938 WALLER Thomas Henry parents ROBERT and MATILDA at LIVERPOOL

Funeral notice, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1752506

Death of wife: 26421/1950 WALLER Elizabeth Mabel parents WILLIAM and ELIZABETH

Rookwood Cemetery PLOT: METHODIST NEW 4C_ZONE F/#/350
WALLER Thomas Henry 75
Date of burial: 5 OCT 1938
WALLER Elizabeth M 65
Date of burial: 12 OCT 1950

Given that Robert and Matilda married in 1854 and we have daughter Margaret born in 1865, I would think there were children born before Margaret.

A Thomas H WALLER married 608/1888 WALLER Thomas H to OHARA Eliza SYDNEY

Eliza died 1887 in TAREE: 9186/1887 WALLER Eliza parents JOHN and Elizabeth

In Memoriam, show that it’s the correct person. 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13682558

I don’t know why the marriage wasn’t registered until 1888.

2nd marriage: 7986/1909 WALLER Thomas H to JACKMAN Elizabeth M GLEBE

I think the Thomas in NZ, who was mentioned in the will, was the brother of William wife.

As an aside, some family members named Sydney residences CAVAN BRAE.

There is no way to be sure everyone is connected without purchasing some certificate transcriptions.

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 09 September 20 01:04 BST (UK) »
Another mystery is who the parents of Florence WALLER are.

She marries William Ellis Rae MACKAY, 1914 at the home of her Uncle Robert, of Cavan Brae. 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15487105

I suspect that she is the daughter of Thomas, but I can’t see a birth.

A possible death, for her: 202311/1985 parents THOMAS and ELIZA

200797/1987 MACKAY William Ellis Rae

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 12 September 20 14:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much.

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Robert Jnr, born Ireland, to Robert Waller and Matilda née Johnson.

Marriage:

Party 1 Name: ROBERT WALLER
Party 2 Name: MATILDA JOHNSTON
Date of Event: 25 August 1854
Group Registration ID: 3242983
SR District/Reg Area: Bailieborough

Children:

Name: MARGARET WALLER
Date of Birth: 5 January 1865
Group Registration ID   7414903
SR District/Reg Area: Bailieborough

Name: ROBERT WALLER
Date of Birth: 1868
Group Registration: ID 7462491
SR District/Reg Area: Bailieborough

Name: MATILDA WALLER
Date of Birth: 1871
Group Registration ID: 11874497
SR District/Reg Area: Bailieborough
Possible marriage and death:
5198/1887 ROSE Albert E to WALLER Matilda E
24907/1959 ROSE Matilda parents ROBERT and MATILDA
Death notice, 1st page: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19590729&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Funeral notice, 1st page: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19590730&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Rookwood Cemetery PLOT: METHODIST NEW 2AW_ZONE F/#/324
ROSE Albert Edward 86
Date of burial: 29 JUL 1957
ROSE Matilda 88
Date of burial: 31 July 1959

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Jamjar, these are my direct ancestors, and I'm still trying to find out more about Robert Alexander's father Robert (who married Matilda Johnston) parents (also Robert, and Mary A) and possible siblings. Tracey is helping me piece some of it together, including this William who went to Tasmania. So I am following this info with interest.

Furthermore, there are other offspring before Margaret I've had help to confirm.

Mary Ann b.1856 - d.1934
John William b.1858 - d. 1882
Thomas Henry b.1864 - 1938 as you suggested.

Then the ones you listed:

Margaret Jane b. 1865 - d.1953
Robert Alexander b. 1868/9 - d.1922 - my direct ancestor
Matilda Eliza b.1857 - d.1959

As an aside, I'm also interesting in finding out more about the family of Robert Alexander's wife - Elizabeth Marion (Lily/Lillian) Mackay. I know her father's name was George, but little else.

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Re: Waller emigration to Tasmania
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Re the mentioned in a Jamjar post Florence WALLER who married William E. A. MACKAY in 1914. Neither was in a hurry to join their ancestors as she lived to 97 and he to 101. They had one child Florence J registered in NSW to 1920. Florence was thus born ca. 1888, the same year Thomas Henry WALLER married his 2nd wife Eliza O'Hara (ca. 1858-1903), a first cousin of his 1st having arrived in 1880 from Greaghadossan townland in Killinkere parish that adjoined where Thomas Henry's fathers farm was in Cleffin townland. For Thomas Henry see a Waller family of Cleffin web at: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jray/genealogy/waller/index.htm#thw 

In regard to Tracy Clarke's messages,  as William Waller was 17 when he arrived in 1854 so born ca. 1837, and sister Rebecca was 27 so born ca. 1827 and as their father was Robert of Cleffin townland they would have been children of Robert of Cleffin who died in 1871 who as explained on the cited web page was the father of Robert who arrived with his three (or perhaps only two) last born children at Hobsons Bay in Victoria on the Greta in 1884.