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George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« on: Monday 07 September 20 07:17 BST (UK) »
Morning All

I am trying to figure out which golf course George Jolly / Tom Towler (may be John Thomas Towler) worked at in July 1941

They are referenced several times in the press around 15th July as being Machine Gunned as they worked at a golf course in a North-east town.

I found John T Thomas in 1940 VR at Skene Street in Aberdeen as a Greenkeeper, so could link him to an Aberdeen course.

George Jolly I can find in Aberdeen as a Bookbinder , or as a Fireman. One in Montrose as a Postman.

The golf course could be, Murcar, Kings Links, Balnagask, Stonehaven and  unlikely but possibly Montrose.

However, in the past I have found press articles stating "xxxx worked in a fish processing factory" when in reality xxx was an aircraft spotter at a factory producing parts for aircraft.  So greenkeeper roles for Towler / Jolly could be deliberate disinformation.

Any suggestions on how to find where they worked or link them to a golf course?

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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 September 20 08:37 BST (UK) »
If they were machine gunned on a golf course, and died on the course, the death certificate would say exactly where they died.

In which case I think your first step is to look at one or both death certificates, available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 September 20 09:11 BST (UK) »
They lay flat and the bullets passed over them, so no death certificates.

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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 September 20 11:42 BST (UK) »
Ah. I misunderstood the OP.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 September 20 16:00 BST (UK) »
Forfarian, I only discovered that by looking at the newspaper article. There are names of various witnesses, but no location hinted at.

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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 September 20 17:37 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find any of the newspaper articles.
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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 September 20 20:55 BST (UK) »
Aberdeen Evening Express, 15th July 1941, page 5.

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Re: George Jolly / Tom Towler - Greenkeepers
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 September 20 10:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks All

the nearest I can find is a John T Towler who was a Greenkeeper in 1940 Valuation Role at 111 1/2 Skene Street Aberdeen. There is a George Jolly who was a Fireman at 17 School Road, Aberdeen.

Can't seem to find much on George Jolly, unless George was his Middle name, or like a lot of Fireman had other jobs (normally window cleaners)

The press always seem to be vague as finding details could aid the enemy locate an area.