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In 1971 census John.Maddox 27 a plumber from Malpas cheshire is listed in the household of George Smith  a 42 year old porter and his wife margaret YATES and their children
Under George & Margaret are 7 children I know to be theirs Edgar 19 butcher to annie age 3

Under that is eliza crossed out then john  Maddox and his wife Eliza 26 from Wrexham
+ 3 more children
Mary OWEN 6
Albert Edward OWEN 3
Annie MADDOX 1 month

The enumerator has described them as daughter son son
So of course transcriptions as them of children of head of household

Several trees have the young OWEN children to George SMITH tho there is no Evidence of this

I suspect they could be children of Eliza MADDOX  from a first marriage
Cant find the MADDOX family in 1881

Fresh eyes please
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:25 BST (UK) »
Birth Dec qtr 1866   
Owens    Albert E(dwin)    Mothers maiden surname Jones
Birkenhead    8a   416

OWENS, MARY  ELIZABETH     mmn JONES 
GRO Reference: 1865  March Quarter in
BIRKENHEAD  Volume 08A  Page 460
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:32 BST (UK) »
Albert Edwin Owens
Baptism date   17 Feb 1867
Birkenhead, St Mary
Father Thomas Owens
Mother Eliza

ADDED Mary E was also baptised at St Marys 26 February 1865 - Father Thomas occ Engineer Mother Eliza
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:35 BST (UK) »
Albert is in Birkenhead with his grandmother Elizabeth JONES in 1881.

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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:38 BST (UK) »
Maybe
Death
OWENS, THOMAS       age 24 
GRO Reference: 1867  Sept Quarter in BIRKENHEAD  Volume 08A  Page 254
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much ...my sister is going to have to rewrite her beautiful family tree book

Those children may well be related to other branches of our Smith Jones family but they are not Smiths

Ive been looking on ancestry and  family search but couldnt find them
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 September 20 13:54 BST (UK) »
No sign of a Maddox marriage either
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 September 20 14:41 BST (UK) »
Hi might be wrong, but there is s MADDOCK family in Birkenhead, headed by Thomas aged 39 and wife Eliza 36 b Denbighshire, new children John H b  1873 and Thomas G b 1876 have mmn Jones?
Census ref RG11/3578/80/57
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PS on GRO as MADDOCKS!
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 September 20 14:52 BST (UK) »
Good idea to look at Maddocks spelling

But it was her first husband called Thomas from rosies findings

The plumbers first name was John
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