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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 September 20 15:21 BST (UK) »
OK will go with that, but there first child was also an Annie aged 10 on 1881, but I believe she is the Anne Royal Maddocks b Sept qtr 1870 Birkenhead, so not aged 1 month in 1871?
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PS and Eliza 36 was born in Brymbo, a part of Wrexham?
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 September 20 15:29 BST (UK) »
Annie Royal Maddocks names her father as Thomas Maddocks occ Labourer when she marries Charles Frost in 1894.  Witnesses were John Love, Thomas Maddocks & Agnes Mercer
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 September 20 18:30 BST (UK) »
There is a very detailed tree on Anc* with all the details supplied here plus a lot lot more.

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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 September 20 18:52 BST (UK) »
The Maddocks/Owens marriage image on Anc* 19.6.1870 Liverpool.

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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 September 20 19:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks john I.ll try and find it.

Im really just eliminating these children from my tree

But there is a distant llink to an adelaide MADDOX so maybe it all links up.
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson

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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 September 20 19:59 BST (UK) »
Yes there are 33 trees with Thomas Maddocks including a beautifully well documented tree

They have 2 possible censuses for 1871
Neither is the Birkenhead one

My tablet keeps freezing ..I.ll check the age of  baby Annie      yes ,* 1.month

Ive not found Albert Edward OWEN with his grandmother yet either
 could you tell me any other details to put into search please Dundee

Ive added them as a floating  HYPOTHESIS branch to my tree while I search but will delete if not
Connected
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #15 on: Monday 07 September 20 20:28 BST (UK) »
1881 ref

Piece:   3587
Folio:   11
Page Number:   21
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Elizabeth Jones   63
Albert E. Owens   14

I think you will find he is Albert EDWIN Owens

OWENS, ALBERT  EDWIN     JONES 
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD  Volume 08A  Page 416

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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 September 20 20:38 BST (UK) »
Im keeping up slowly
The Thomas Maddocks on wedding bans is also a plumber and
Eliza Owens is a widow
She gives fathers name as Timothy  JONES which is quite an unusual name at the time

The trees ive looked at so far dont seem to know about her first marriage the Owens children or the Maddox couple s wherabouts in 1871
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Re: John Maddox lodger. & wife Eliza( are the Owens children hers or George Smiths
« Reply #17 on: Monday 07 September 20 20:43 BST (UK) »
Are you looking at the tree submitted by "frosthistory"

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