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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 10 September 20 00:29 BST (UK) »
Image of the marriage of the real Thomas Jackson in Dec 1901, in case it helps anyone
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X3QW-GT?i=208&cc=1788853

Thomas declares himself to be 23, one year younger than Mary Ellen.
Father John Jackson is deceased

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 10 September 20 00:42 BST (UK) »
1911 census can find Mary Ellen but not Thomas  - note they were still married when Mary Ellen died in 1937

Throw in Mary Ellen in the free index to 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1N-W9X

Three children, here's one
JACKSON, JOHN  SIMPSON     
Mother's Maiden Surname: BROWN 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 369

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 10 September 20 07:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jon.
I was trying to unpick that yesterday but I think I gave up.  There is another family with a Walter b 1870ish and Thomas combination but I think that Thomas married Rebecca Jones in 1900.
It is difficult to find the same mothers’ names to identify children and then there is Chorlton/Manchester districts.
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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 10 September 20 08:12 BST (UK) »

The list of occupations that I have for him and their sources are

1902 Ship Fireman -Birth Certificate Ellen Jackson
1904 Labourer in Electric Works - Birth certificate Edith Jackson

1920 Steel Erector - Birth Certificate Edna Jackson


Are there any other children, or a gap of 16 years between Edith and Edna?

I was trying to find him in 1911 (you have him on Ellen's death certificate in 1908 as a Foundry Labourer), and wondered what he was doing etc etc

Added:
Just found your tree on Ancestry with daughter Beatrice born 1912, Prestwich, and Irene 1918 Prestwich.

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 10 September 20 09:01 BST (UK) »
1911 census can find Mary Ellen but not Thomas  - note they were still married when Mary Ellen died in 1937

Throw in Mary Ellen in the free index to 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1N-W9X

Three children, here's one
JACKSON, JOHN  SIMPSON     
Mother's Maiden Surname: BROWN 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 369

I did not realise that was the Mary Ellen, had managed to find too many Jackson/Brown births in Prestwich.  Where does the Simpson come from - her side of the family?

So not a gap of 16 years between children.  Wonder what his occupation was on the youngest child's certificate.

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 10 September 20 09:10 BST (UK) »
John Simpson Jackson died in Weston-super-Mare in 1980, birth date as 9th May 1908.

Looks to have been in Norwich in 1939, very similar line of business to his father.

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 10 September 20 09:24 BST (UK) »
Daughters Irene and Edna are unmarried in 1939, and living together according to your tree?

Who do you think is the head of household(or the person on the first line), who is redacted?

Could it possibly be their father with an completely incorrect date recorded?

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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 10 September 20 09:34 BST (UK) »
John Simpson Jackson died in Weston-super-Mare in 1980, birth date as 9th May 1908.

Looks to have been in Norwich in 1939, very similar line of business to his father.

That is promising  :)
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Re: Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 10 September 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
A possible one here:
1911 - Thomas Jackson, in Knutsford prison.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW3Q-PBZ

I had seen this before but thought he was single. It is only when I looked at this record, I see he was not.
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