Help with beginners brick wall: Finding Thomas Jackson

[chempat]

I saw that one, but was not convinced as thought 'dock labourer' was a bit too general, and why in prison there?

Wonder how easy the newspapers will be to search....

[heywood]

I can’t see anything in newspaper snippets.
FindMyPast indexes re crime show Thomas Jackson with several aliases so that might be this chap in 1911.
I just posted him re the elements which fit.

[chempat]

Just to put that the 'Simpson' seems to come from the Mary Ellen side - her brother is similarly named
Birth March quarter 1886 in Manchester William Simpson Brown mmn Smith ,
   whilst Mary Ellen is Mary Ellen Brown mmn Smith December quarter 1877 Manchester.

[jonw65]

It is time for chrisruthsmith to return.
And can they clear up death of Thomas

From death certificate[/b]
* died 6/61947

Philips Park Cemetery
Grave Number CConsecrated 1885
Position 1 Ellen Jackson, buried 07/04/1908   
Position 2 Mary Ellen Jackson, buried 18/05/1937   
Position 3 Thomas Jackson, buried 28/05/1947

https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/

[chempat]

Oh, oops, that made me giggle - time for bed.

[jonw65]

Goodnight, chempat! Do sleep well.
It is past all our bedtimes I think!

OCR text, check original!
Manchester Evening News, 26 May 1947
JACKSON.—On May 24, in hospital, THOMAS, in his 69th year, dearly-loved and devoted husband of the late Mary Ellen JACKSON. 13, Wrigley Crescent, Lord Lane. Failsworth (formerly of Holland-street, Miles Platting) Service St. Mark's Church, Wednesday, 10 15; interment Philips Park Cemetery, 10 45 a.m. Inq. H. Sumner and Son Tel. Col 1584

June 1947 Oldham 10f 113
Jackson, Thomas   
age 68

[chempat]

Are we allowed to say that we have searched 1939 if we give no results?

If so, I can see numbers 121 to 153, then Rectory,  Holland Street;  Numbers 155-163, 154, School House, Holland Street;  and 1 to 2, Holland Street, these all of Manchester (not Denton), 3 different sets.

I cannot find the missing numbers.  Possibly the first addressed house is blacked out and the rest are just dittos?

Holland Street on google maps looks to have been completely modernised (bombed? clearance?) and new buildings.

Holland Street running diagonally bottom left to top right:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522821#zoom=5&lat=5937&lon=9925&layers=BT

[heywood]

There is a tree which references Edna’s baptism in 1920 at St Mark’s which is Holland Street Newton Heath.
Perhaps the family were living there in 1920 before moving to Failsworth.

[chempat]

If the age at death is accurate, then he was born from May 25th 1878 to May 23rd 1879.

At marriage on December 26 1901 age 23, so born at the very end of 1877 to 25th December, 1878, if age accurate.

Thus birth should be from May 25th 1878 to December 1878, so should have been registered from 2nd quarter 1878 to 1st quarter 1879.    Think that gets rid of your proposed Manchester birth.