Ramsberg Andersons

[JustJean]

Still working on DNA connections in Ramsberg area of Sweden. 

THis is a new query regarding the birth record of Anders Anderson found here:  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001195_00016#?c=&m=&s=&cv=15&xywh=326%2C291%2C2450%2C1610 entry number 67.  Could someone please confirm the parents names and their location?  I am seeing Anders Jacobsson and Persdotter. 

I have found this householder record that I think is them: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001176_00248#?c=&m=&s=&cv=247&xywh=430%2C757%2C2153%2C1414 but I would love to have this confirmed.  I am trying to prove that the Anders in the birth record had a sister or half sister? named Anna or possibly Anna Greta born about 1799 supposedly in Nora but maybe in Lindesberg?

I have traced backward to get to Anna Andersdotter b 1799 Nora and found her married to an Anders Anderson and living in Wedevågs Fiskartorp and family Johanna b 1831, Lovisa b 1833, Erik b 1838, Carolina b 1842, Per b 1824, and Anna Christina b 1829 and also a son Anders b 11 Oct 1822 who was married to Lovisa Jansdotter. 

Just trying to figure out what the DNA is saying is possible!

Thanks for the assistance!

Jean

[jamcat95]

THis is a new query regarding the birth record of Anders Anderson found here:  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001195_00016#?c=&m=&s=&cv=15&xywh=326%2C291%2C2450%2C1610 entry number 67.  Could someone please confirm the parents names and their location?  I am seeing Anders Jacobsson and Persdotter. 

Hi
Anders Jacobsson and Stina Persdotter.
They are living at Wästra Skogstorp.

Ian

[jamcat95]

I have found this householder record that I think is them: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001176_00248#?c=&m=&s=&cv=247&xywh=430%2C757%2C2153%2C1414 but I would love to have this confirmed.

Yes this is the family in Wästra Skogstorp.

[JustJean]

Thank you Ian for the confirmation on the images.  Can’t believe another Stina name! It looked like an H first letter to me!  So now I have to ask.  In the householder image is the first person listed under Anders and wife Stina......is that a daughter of Stina b in 1798??  Isn’t the marriage year for them 1805?  I am getting the sons Anders in 1806, Peter in 1807 and dying? in 1809, Peter in 1810, and Eric in 1812.  I need to dig deeper on these!

Thanks again
Jean

[jamcat95]

Her daughter's name is Anna Hansdotter. Stina married Anders as a widow.

Anna's birth - nr 81:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001194_00157#?cv=156&c=&m=&s=&xywh=1611%2C-1635%2C3357%2C6104

Anders and Stina's marriage - nr 29:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001199_00043#?cv=42&c=&m=&s=&xywh=121%2C2618%2C995%2C1810


Ian

[JustJean]

These are great.  I am fairly certain I have the correct birth for Anders b 1806 and it is obvious we are looking at the correct household and now you have added a correct birth for Anna and 2nd marriage of her mother.  I dont see how Nora as a birth place is going to fit into this and at the moment I cannot see a biological link between 1806 Anders and an Anna Andersdotter b abt 1799 Nora. Dna connects somehow so I guess it is back to digging other possibilities

Thanks for your help as always!
Jean

[JustJean]

On second thought...look at this householder page that precedes the one posted above:  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001175_00016#?c=&m=&s=&cv=15&xywh=30%2C1687%2C3310%2C1913  It looks like Anders Jacobsson listed at the bottom and Stina Persdotter is shown with her husband and what looks like Anna b 1798  and another child b. before Anna in Nora?  Maybe I am on the right track after all?

Jean

[jamcat95]

Yes it is them.
You have Hans Andersson, her husband, is recorded as dying 1802. He is also recorded as Per Mattsson's son-in-law "måg". So Stina is listed on the 3rd line in the family at the top.
Then, under Hans Andersson is "enkan" widow Stina Pehrsdotter followed by little boy "gossan" Gustaf Cathrinasson, probably Stina's illegitimate son and then Anna Hansdotter.


Ian

[jamcat95]

This looks to be Anders Jacobsson's birth - nr 34:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001193_00143#?c=&m=&s=&cv=142&xywh=766%2C1890%2C5613%2C2755


Ian