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1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« on: Friday 11 September 20 01:43 BST (UK) »
Hello.

My grandfather's death cert says he is from Carrick and then I believe it lists his occupation but I cannot decipher it. In earlier documents he was an excise officer. His name is William Orr (bottom entry). Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 September 20 03:02 BST (UK) »
Could you let us know the County please.  Tending towards thinking that the word runs on from Carrick as you can see in the entry above.  Looks a bit like Renall? So Carrick Renall or Penal? 

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 September 20 03:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply. This is Ayrshire. William Orr married Jean Ferguson in Ayr and the death cert I referred to is: 17/10/1823 ORR, WILLIAM - Old Parish Registers Deaths 578/ 130 17 Ayr. Not sure the county name...

At his marriage he is a lawyer , which could lend itself to penal...


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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 September 20 03:57 BST (UK) »
Is that Lawyer or Sawyer
currently concentrating on a number of Staffordshire families.

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 September 20 04:28 BST (UK) »
Is that Lawyer or Sawyer

Good point Mckha.
Is there another capital 'L' and 'S' on the page in the register for comparison?

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Unless you already know from other sources he was a lawyer?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 September 20 04:39 BST (UK) »
Here is more of the document for comparison.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gx-yD5gwIE8crICg1z0FMsvZH23z5Gk9/view?usp=sharing

I only knew he was an excise officer at one point.

Here in my grandfather's death cert. it mention his father's occupation as excise officer
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bLOI1d7_D_1pfpKg92894rY-bhzcQpdA/view?usp=sharing


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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 September 20 05:40 BST (UK) »
Here is William Orr's marriage doc to compare L and S's

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DgfB21xFfts7SZraoT0FOyvSnUo-P62o/view?usp=sharing

Looking like S for Sawyer as you mentioned.

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 September 20 08:56 BST (UK) »
A lawyer then would probably be called a writer, an exciseman a gauger!

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 September 20 11:14 BST (UK) »
looks like venal to me, so part of his address. Reference to Carrick Vennel here, part of it became Carrick Street.

https://canmore.org.uk/site/41796/ayr-carrick-port
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb