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Offline Neale1961

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Re: 1823 death cert - Need help with a word
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 September 20 11:16 BST (UK) »
 Hi Alan,
On the death certificate, I think the word after Carrick, is a place name (place of abode), not a profession. Carrick was an area in south Ayrshire which contained a few parishes. Although I cannot make out the first letters, the mystery word seems to be written very close to Carrick, rather than more separate like the above professions are listed.

On the marriage certificate I believe he is recorded as a SAWYER.

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 September 20 12:07 BST (UK) »
I also think it says Carrick Venall, this being his address, as posted by Osprey.
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 September 20 13:21 BST (UK) »
A Vennal = a lane! Osprey done good!  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 September 20 23:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for the help!

From Osprey's Canmore link:
"The vennel would be the quickest route from market into Carrick, via Alloway. If this was an open route to the burgh"

Will have to start calling local lanes vennels!

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 September 20 04:45 BST (UK) »
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CARRIGK   VENNEL.    Near  the Kyle  Port  and  almost   opposite   the  old  tower  in High  Street,  Carrick Vennel  branched  off into the  burgh   moor   and  so through  Alloway,  leading  to the  Old  Bridge of Doon.  It would  be  the  quickest  route, from the  market  into  Carrick.   Part  of it  exists  as Carrick  Street.    Some  say  it  also  bore  the  name  of  the  Foul  Vennel.^  Cow   VENNEL   (or  COWGAIT).   The  Cow  Vennel  also  led  off  the  High  Street  into  the  burgh  moor.   The  built-up  part of it is now   appropriately   named   Alloway    Street,  for  the  original  path  led through  Alloway  to  Maybole.    The  old name   shows   the  reason  for the route  because  it was  the Cow Road   along   which  cattle  were  herded  to the  communal  pasture.   Along  this  vennel   were   located  the cattle   markets  known  as the  Fauld-backs.* FOUL  VENNEL   (or  FOUL   CALSAY)  .  The  burgh  moor  was  also  approached   through  the  Foul   Vennel.    There  is  much   per-plexity  as to the location  of this  lane  and  much  conjecture  as  to  the meaning  of  its  title.    Some   authorities  aver  that   Foul   Calsay  led from  the  Sandgate  to  the  Kirk   of St. John  the  Baptist.    Others  maintain  that  it is the Carrick Vennel  under  an    alternative  name.^