GG Grandmother, Jane Neill m. James Bradley circa 1823 in Ireland.

[Elaine70]

Hi everyone. I’ve reached a roadblock for my GG Grandmother, Jane Neill m. James Bradley circa 1823 in Ireland (not sure where). I’ve always felt marrying at circa 30 years would be uncommon for these times? We believe she was born circa 1791 in Dublin, not confirmed. My question - and I’m assuming yes - is it common practice for the bride to take the grooms name after marriage? A relative has found a news item announcing a Jane Neill’s death. I’m assuming Jane would be a Jane Bradley. Debate continues with relative, hence I’m reaching out. The only other info I have is her daughter Eleanor (Ellen) Bradley (my G Grandmother) was born in Belfast in 1827. Any ideas/point me in the right direction ?? I’ve exhausted my expertise, unfortunately. TIA

[PaulineJ]

Were there any known siblings to the daughter (Eleanor/Ellen Bradley)? (who, when, where)?
What religion did the family follow?

Pauline

[jbml]

You need to contextualise your query according to the circumstances of the time.

Whilst early 20s would be a more common age to marry, your great great grandmother would have been at prime marrying age at the height of the Napoleonic war / War of 1812, when a significant number of young eligible Irishmen would have been serving abroad. So, just like the "maiden aunts" of the first world war generation, there would have been a surplus of marriageable young women over marriageable young men. Marrying somewhat later in life would not, therefore, be that uncommon a thing.

[Maggsie]

Hi,

It is listed as 1791 in Ancestry but it is incorrect.
it's this......5th October 1798.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633527#page/173/mode/1up
Con the father, Cornelius and Mary. doesn't say her maiden name.

Someone else was looking for this years ago, I don't keep any info once I have done a search.
Maggsie

[Elaine70]

Thank you for all of your responses.  I have the document indicating 1798 - however, I felt it was a slip of the pen and settled for 1791 -- given the previous page definitely said 1791.  I couldn't see how there would be a 7 year gap ?? Additionally, the document has been scanned in as October 1791, Pg 173.  Your thoughts ??

Also, re siblings..... I haven't found any other family members (that I could confirm) - just Eleanor (Ellen).  As far as I can determine, Jane was Catholic. 

[Maggsie]

Hi, Yes sorry, it is 1791.
Yes she was Catholic as these records are from the Catholic Church Parish records.
This was in St Catherine's Church.
The only other Neill birth I found with the father Cornelius but the Mother was Bridget this was an Eleanor Baptised in the Church in Bray. 17th July 1789.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633712#page/24/mode/1up
Maggsie

[Elaine70]

Hi Maggsie, not looking promising, is it!?

I have Eleanor’s (Ellen) marriage certificate, 1 April 1850. Interesting, I’ve just noticed Eleanor married in the Presbyterian Church Belfast. Unfortunately I can’t make out the writing to determine the parish. Father is noted as James Bradley and mother is noted as Jane Neill on Eleanor’s death registration.  Eleanor’s details always listed her place of birth as “Belfast”, however on her death record place of birth is listed as Carrickfergus (10 miles from Belfast ).

[Sinann]

If William Moore is the correct marriage
Think it's Townsend's St. Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09384/5398796.pdf
https://goo.gl/maps/EymeXyLRMD38P8MR6

[Kiltaglassan]

If William Moore is the correct marriage
Think it's Townsend's St. Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09384/5398796.pdf
https://goo.gl/maps/EymeXyLRMD38P8MR6

It is indeed!
https://tinyurl.com/yyfucc2x

KG