Author Topic: GG Grandmother, Jane Neill m. James Bradley circa 1823 in Ireland.  (Read 580 times)

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GG Grandmother, Jane Neill m. James Bradley circa 1823 in Ireland.
« on: Sunday 13 September 20 01:27 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone. Iíve reached a roadblock for my GG Grandmother, Jane Neill m. James Bradley circa 1823 in Ireland (not sure where). Iíve always felt marrying at circa 30 years would be uncommon for these times? We believe she was born circa 1791 in Dublin, not confirmed. My question - and Iím assuming yes - is it common practice for the bride to take the grooms name after marriage? A relative has found a news item announcing a Jane Neillís death. Iím assuming Jane would be a Jane Bradley. Debate continues with relative, hence Iím reaching out. The only other info I have is her daughter Eleanor (Ellen) Bradley (my G Grandmother) was born in Belfast in 1827. Any ideas/point me in the right direction ?? Iíve exhausted my expertise, unfortunately. TIA

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Re: Query
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 September 20 09:08 BST (UK) »
Were there any known siblings to the daughter (Eleanor/Ellen Bradley)? (who, when, where)?
What religion did the family follow?

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Re: Query
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 September 20 09:12 BST (UK) »
You need to contextualise your query according to the circumstances of the time.

Whilst early 20s would be a more common age to marry, your great great grandmother would have been at prime marrying age at the height of the Napoleonic war / War of 1812, when a significant number of young eligible Irishmen would have been serving abroad. So, just like the "maiden aunts" of the first world war generation, there would have been a surplus of marriageable young women over marriageable young men. Marrying somewhat later in life would not, therefore, be that uncommon a thing.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright


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Re: Query
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 September 20 09:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It is listed as 1791 in Ancestry but it is incorrect.
it's this......5th October 1798.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633527#page/173/mode/1up
Con the father, Cornelius and Mary. doesn't say her maiden name.

Someone else was looking for this years ago, I don't keep any info once I have done a search.
Maggsie

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 September 20 11:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all of your responses.  I have the document indicating 1798 - however, I felt it was a slip of the pen and settled for 1791 -- given the previous page definitely said 1791.  I couldn't see how there would be a 7 year gap ?? Additionally, the document has been scanned in as October 1791, Pg 173.  Your thoughts ??

Also, re siblings..... I haven't found any other family members (that I could confirm) - just Eleanor (Ellen).  As far as I can determine, Jane was Catholic. 

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 September 20 12:50 BST (UK) »
Hi, Yes sorry, it is 1791.
Yes she was Catholic as these records are from the Catholic Church Parish records.
This was in St Catherine's Church.
The only other Neill birth I found with the father Cornelius but the Mother was Bridget this was an Eleanor Baptised in the Church in Bray. 17th July 1789.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633712#page/24/mode/1up
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Re: Query
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 September 20 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Maggsie, not looking promising, is it!?

I have Eleanorís (Ellen) marriage certificate, 1 April 1850. Interesting, Iíve just noticed Eleanor married in the Presbyterian Church Belfast. Unfortunately I canít make out the writing to determine the parish. Father is noted as James Bradley and mother is noted as Jane Neill on Eleanorís death registration.  Eleanorís details always listed her place of birth as ďBelfastĒ, however on her death record place of birth is listed as Carrickfergus (10 miles from Belfast ).

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