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Re: Staying safe ....my place
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 15:39 BST (UK) »
I've often wondered why we British (and I include Scotland etc - yes, even the smug IoM in this - seem to be so quick to obey rules and regulations, even though a lot of the time they make little sense (as illustrated by the preceding posts)?

Like most people, I started out thinking lockdown etc was for my own good as well as that of the nation and kept to the ''rules' but now I've had enough of all this chopping and changing; total government ineptitude and I openly say: who on earth is going to notice if you have 7 people in your house at Christmas or any other time? Unless we all turn 'informer' as in a true police state! (covid wardens?!?)

By what right do nonentities like Hancock make edicts governing how you live your life, and seemingly change these pettifogging rules on a daily basis? Where is Parliament? We no longer appear to live in a democracy. They saw how compliant we all were during lockdown and are now taking advantage. We are being restrained. We are being tricked and bullied. Its a slippery slope.

I know I keep banging the same drum, and will continue to do so when people just shrug their shoulders and say things like 'its for the best'. Says who?

I read posts on here and see that many are genuinely afraid of the virus but just as afraid of contravening these ridiculous 'rules'. My heart does go out to them but I also want to shake them into seeing what is really going on.

If the government really cared about us, they'd have given over track and trace to local areas to administer by now instead of putting it into the hands of private set ups owned by people of their own ilk. Even after all these months of the whole thing being a complete mess, they won't even consider it! There must be money to be made by people with names like Dido!! We are, and always will be to these people, mere 'cannon fodder'.

I'm not advocating attending raves or street parties, really I'm not. I know we have to be sensible for our own good, but neither am I happy to just obey incompetence. I don't think I'm alone in this - I can see trouble ahead if these politicians don't pull themselves together and stop trying to turn us into a dystopian 1984.

Hear hear  I couldn't agree with you more.

CD

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Re: Staying safe ....my place
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 15:43 BST (UK) »
I'm not living as if I am in lockdown in order to obey rules.  I am living like this as I want to minimise the chance that I inadvertently infect someone as an asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic carrier.  I'm living like this to try and protect my family as I am aware of the levels of circulating virus and the potential adverse effects of it. Consequently I do not consider socialising in groups to be safe so will not be joining in.
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« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:11 BST (UK) »
I agree with Pharma.
We have not really had anything like this before,not even the flu epidemic after WW1 .
It is new, mysterious ,insidious even and if those in authority seem to be floundering does it help when people break rules,advice, guidelines?
Call them what you will.
Do you seriously think the   Government is taking  advantage of the Covid 19
situation to underhandedly  impose restrictions on us for their future benefit.?

What planet are you on, ?I bet it is flat!

I am doing all I can to minimise my own chances if contracting the disease, but also my children ,grandchildren and great grandson  need consideration .
I have had many years of life ,four of my family are under thirty,one just four.
They and my children deserve to live out their lives happily.

It is selfish attitudes and behaviour that are responsible for the rise in cases
making countrywide lockdown a possibility again .
Against professional knowledge and advice only a fool would think they knew better, and baulk against such informed advice.
If it was wrong, top Doctors and Specialists would be up in arms ,and be giving different advice and asking for other means to try and control it.
I do not like being seen as a gullible fool because in the absence of great  knowledge on my part I follow what people in authority who have been advised by those who do have knowledge, advise and yes even impose .

It has been a shambles ,yes, confusing changes , mixed messages I agree.
But what good does it do to flout all rules, advice etc. because someone thinks there is a sinister plot to control the populace in the future ?
That feeling comes through in your post.
I will continue to act as if we are still in lockdown , and hopefully not cause my family any worry or put them in any danger .
It is hard,very hard, but as I said in another post ,my generation grew up
obeying ,toeing the line, having a social conscience .
So many great thing cane out of that attitude, yesterday was the anniversary
of The  Battle  of Britain ,when 19 year olds fought in one of the most strategic engagements of WW2.
Perhaps they would have selfishly gathered ,against the rules, but in the
end -their end- no one can say they were selfish.
Include me out.!
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Re: Staying safe ....my place
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:25 BST (UK) »
Well said Viktoria.
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Re: Staying safe ....my place
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:31 BST (UK) »
Ditto from me, Viktoria!
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« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:42 BST (UK) »
CMOs of Lancashire and Bury + people in Bolton + Andy Burnham, Greater Manchester Mayor on "PM" programme this evening. CMOs: can't cope with the numbers of people wanting to be tested; Boltonians: can't get tests; Andy Burnham: 50% of contacts for track & trace (or whatever it's called) can't be traced - estimated 3,500 people who have been in contact with an infected person might be wandering around Greater Manchester.
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« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:52 BST (UK) »
We have not really had anything like this before,not even the flu epidemic after WW1 .

Virology was a fairly new science then and not fully understood. 
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« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 23:52 BST (UK) »
Sorry Viktoria it's a thumb's down from me.  The test and trace initiative has been more than a shambles. The localised changes conflicting, confusing and unhelpful.  Let's have this conversation again in a year when we are trying to deal with the after effects of a rise in alcoholism, mental health issues, domestic abuse, sky high mortality rates due to cancer, suicide and people dealing with financial ruin. Sadly covid is here to stay so we need to learn to live with it.

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« Reply #44 on: Thursday 17 September 20 00:07 BST (UK) »
That is bad, MaidenStone,I  fully agree,.
 I can’t agree with many points in the other post I answered, because flouting authority in these dreadful times will not  ensure liberties can ‘t and won’t be withdrawn in the time after Covid 19.
If that is the insidious intention at the present time of those in authority.
We are not  being conditioned to become mindless Zombies,totally obedient.
I resented the insinuation that by sticking to the rules,advice,guidelines etc we would become totally subservient and  liberties taken away etc.
However mixed,contradictory and confusing what we are told is ,people are trying to contain this virus and get us through .

It is no time to to be un -cooperative .
If we can’t contain it there will be no one here to have liberties.
Viktoria.