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Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« on: Monday 14 September 20 06:27 BST (UK) »

I need help please deciphering some words on the marriage entry, forth line down on the attachment.
The transcription gave me 'John Blackburne & Beatrice Lamason 1 July 1627'.
My concerns are the brides surname which does not look like Lamason more like Lauraston and also the word after her surname, which may be a place name?

Cheers & Stay Safe
Bob   
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 September 20 07:00 BST (UK) »
It's a good thing you asked:

...& Beatrice Lancaster the seventeenth day [ie of July]

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 September 20 12:55 BST (UK) »
Absolutely agree with Horselydown.

Bob -- it's a long 'S' in Lancaster. Also, if you look at the other entries - they all end with the handwritten date.

(As an aside - what a coincidence that you have 2 people with surnames from place names in the County of Lancashire - marrying at Birstall in Yorkshire!

Maybe originally ----way back in 13c both families heralded from those settlements - thereby being given their names).
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.


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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 September 20 23:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks Horselydown and Pennines.  Amazing what you can see once it's pointed out.

Good point you make there Pennines about their names, very interesting. 

Cheers & Stay Safe
Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 10:39 BST (UK) »
Bob - funnily enough I also have a Blackburn line in West Yorkshire (Mirfield) - I found that it was sometimes spelt Blegburne or Blagburn - although you have already got a long way back with yours so that might not affect you.

It was the way it was often pronounced - even in my living memory!!
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 00:14 BST (UK) »
Yes, my Blackburn ancestors seem to be around Mirfield/Wakefield/Birstall/Batley area.  Can't say I've come across those other spellings just sometimes having an 'e' on the end.
My 6xgreat grandfather Samuel Blackburn (b 1683) was a clothier of Hopton which I believe is part of Mirfield.  His daughter Martha married William Pearson and that's were I come in.

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 00:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, my Blackburn ancestors seem to be around Mirfield/Wakefield/Birstall/Batley area.  Can't say I've come across those other spellings just sometimes having an 'e' on the end.
My 6xgreat grandfather Samuel Blackburn (b 1683) was a clothier of Hopton which I believe is part of Mirfield.  His daughter Martha married William Pearson and that's were I come in.

Bob

The magic name PEARSON, is also in my tree and yes so is Birstall where Mary Pearson baptised there married Eli Collins there in 1768 and that is where I come in.
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Lancashire:-Lamb, Gorst, Hardman, Threlfall, Lawson
Westmoreland/Cumberland:-Bush, Strickland, Chamber(s), Hedwen/Hadwin, Carleton
Monmouthshire:-Evans, Jones
Yorkshire:-Collins, Thompson, Darnborough, Drummer, Raistrick, Ewbank, Holdsworth, Clark
Herefordshire:-Ruck, Williams, Jones, Meadmore, Goode, Berrington.
Cheshire:-Ainsworth, Hayes, Norcot, Lowe, Duncalf, Lightfoot, Percival, Newton.
Ireland:-Brazell, Curwen/Curren/Curran/Corn
Canada:-Thompson, Sanderson, Hysop, Beaton, Staniforth

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 10:41 BST (UK) »
Oh wow - yes Hopton and Birstall feature a lot in the events of my West Yorkshire ancestors.

Perhaps all of our ancestors knew one another!!
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Help Needed with Marriage Please - 1627 Birstall Yorkshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 12:17 BST (UK) »
Oh wow - yes Hopton and Birstall feature a lot in the events of my West Yorkshire ancestors.

Perhaps all of our ancestors knew one another!!

Pretty sure that a lot must have known each other and I see from your signature that you have Townend in your family from the area as I do with Emily Townend born c 1864.

My Wife and I have ancestors who must have attended the same Chapel in Great Horton and we even share a DNA match with another person.
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Lancashire:-Lamb, Gorst, Hardman, Threlfall, Lawson
Westmoreland/Cumberland:-Bush, Strickland, Chamber(s), Hedwen/Hadwin, Carleton
Monmouthshire:-Evans, Jones
Yorkshire:-Collins, Thompson, Darnborough, Drummer, Raistrick, Ewbank, Holdsworth, Clark
Herefordshire:-Ruck, Williams, Jones, Meadmore, Goode, Berrington.
Cheshire:-Ainsworth, Hayes, Norcot, Lowe, Duncalf, Lightfoot, Percival, Newton.
Ireland:-Brazell, Curwen/Curren/Curran/Corn
Canada:-Thompson, Sanderson, Hysop, Beaton, Staniforth