I am just tidying up my work desk, going through some scribbled notes, and so I share :
looking for Australian birth or baptism record Vic/NSW =any ideas where next?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=836107.0 At reply # 7 is the 1892 d.c. for John SCALES (Senior, ie the father of John Isacc SCALES), and it includes the signature of the informant, John Isaac SCALES, son, Farmer (of) Mitta Mitta. (#7582/1892).
1889 Historical Victoria Australia Birth certificates – the procedure
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835114.0 It is at this thread we also learn about the 1916 marriage (Mary Helen ANDREWS and Ernest Frederic HARRIS) and that the ‘only people present were the bride, groom, clergy and his wife and daughter’. The 1916 MC has the bride’s mother as Mary GLASS, and the bride as Mary Helen ANDREWS, a spinster aged 24. The official witnesses are recorded on the marriage registration and it seems that they are the clergyman’s wife and daughter. The congregation is not usually recorded on marriage registrations, so there is no notation on that record showing if the parent/s of the bride attended.
It is also at that thread that the discussion develops regarding John Isaac SCALES being the informant on the birth registration for a birth 24 Dec 1889 and registered some eight weeks later on Monday 24 February 1890. The opening post for that thread gives that there is a “small note written on the side of the cert dated June (1890) saying that in the 8th column where the informant is named that the informant was in fact the uncle not the brother’. A respected Global Moderator has replied (reply #1) noting he could have given the information verbally along with several other sensible suggestions and comments. Our OP responds (reply #2) noting t
he informant’s signature looked ‘like an elderly person signed it … he was 30ish …’ So perhaps the signature on the 1892 d.c. could be compared with the signature on the 1890 b.c. But in general terms, I have not yet found anything to suggest that Mary Helen ANDREWS' mother was the sister of John Isaac SCALES.
I also think that all three threads would benefit from being merged into one thread.
Here is the live link to VIC BDM 'contact us' section. I notice there is a fee of $60, in the section headed :
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Email your request to bdmdatarequests@justice.vic.gov.au (External link)Perhaps our OP could consider if they were asked what the procedure was for registering birth in Vic in 1889-1890 and for the deputy registrar to make notation on the register itself re the relationship, that the response should help untangle any twisty info.
JM
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Newspaper coverage Wagga, Temora, 1913 concerts from Miss Mary Andrews.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142645153 Daily Advertiser 12 March 1913.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/145397402 Wagga Express 5 April 1913.
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There is a birth registered in Victoria in 1890, and indexed as Mary ANDREWS, mother as Mary ANDREWS, no name for baby's dad . Ref 10718/1890.