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Ladyhawk, well found, 1891 census

Piece:   3677
Folio:   149
Page Number:   43
Household Schedule Number:   316
Household Members:   
Name   Age
George Howard   24
Eliza A Howard   24
Harry Howard   20
John Howard   18

address 7 Sandown St , as per enlistment papers

The sister mentioned is Sarah Howard born 1873. Believe she married John Wright 18.5.1894--father John Howard (not shown as deceased). One witness is a N Howard (Nathan!) 1901 census ref below.

Piece:   3750
Folio:   117
Page Number:   31
Household Schedule Number:   175
Household Members:   
Name   Age
John Wright   28
Sarah Wright   27
Mary Ann Wright   3
Emma M Wright   1
John Wright   6/1

John

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Ladyhawk, as per your link to CWGC, Nathan & Emily living at " 2 Lowe St, Denton on 1922 electoral register.

John

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For info only, when George Howard married Eliza Ann Scholfied in 1898 the witnesses were John & Sarah Wright. Eliza's address at the time JUNO ST, as per enlistment.

John

[Ladyhawk]

1891 census

Piece:   3677
Folio:   149
Page Number:   43
Household Schedule Number:   316
Household Members:   
Name   Age
George Howard   24
Eliza A Howard   24
Harry Howard   20
John Howard   18

address 7 Sandown St , as per enlistment papers

Hi John - Well found 

Just to say the census you mention above for the Howard’s is 1901 - it took me a while to find it    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X924-JQR

I think this is George & Eliza on 1911c
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW12-LC9

For info only, when George Howard married Eliza Ann Scholfied in 1898 the witnesses were John & Sarah Wright. Eliza's address at the time JUNO ST, as per enlistment.

You can view the 1898 marriage here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLBG-1CYN

The sister mentioned is Sarah Howard born 1873.

Believe she married John Wright 18.5.1894--father John Howard (not shown as deceased). One witness is a N Howard (Nathan!) 1901 census ref below.

Piece:   3750
Folio:   117
Page Number:   31
Household Schedule Number:   175

John Wright   28
Sarah Wright   27
Mary Ann Wright 3
Emma M Wright   1
John Wright   6/1

For info., John, Sarah & children in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1W-LC4

[Ladyhawk]

A photograph of John Howard's Headstone at Barlin Cemetery has been added to findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56514209/john-howard

[izziblem]

Hello,

Did you get any further on solving your mystery?

I think i can help with some of the info, from my research Nathan Howard was my great great grandfather. He had another child in 1891 called Sarah Eveline Howard who was my great grandmother.

you will find Nathan at 4&6 Clyde Road Didsbury in 1891 census as a page boy at the house of a Chaplin called Frederick Krauss.

Nathan was in an industrial school as a child and you can find out some futher info on his family there.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4497825%2F00846&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F58002616%2F1

in fact all the boys were in there at some point. Below is the link to John's entry which states "mother dead" so by 1894 Elizabeth was dead.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4497826%2F00333&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F58002880%2F1


I never found out what happened to his father John but if the descriptions in these entries are anything to go by "drunken lazy man" etc are anything to go by I'm not sure it ended particularly well.

As for the interchanging names, I just assumed that Nathan went between the two names but ive concluded that the 1911 census is the same person as the other entires found.

hope this helps or maybe it adds more to your headache!