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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 20:58 BST (UK) »
Hi, thankyou,  Yes, but in  MAR 1902...there's EMILY HOWARD  8d 476.   And this is who I think he married so I couldnt understand why they would have the same number but the dates were 4 years different... I'm going to close this thread and open one under a different heading now that this isn't just a general question any more.    I'll do that now but I'm not sure whether I can transfer some of these threads into a New Topic, but I'll try.
In the meantime, thank you so much for your postings - this is such a helpful site.

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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:00 BST (UK) »
Did Nathan and Emily get back together again as they appear together on the 1939 register. Do you know when Emily died?

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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:29 BST (UK) »
Sorry I'm still trying to get to grips with the site - I couldnt post a new Topic on the same day I posted this one, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to do that.  Anyway.....

Yes, I think Emily did get back with Nathan.  I'm imagining this scenario......but just a guess, ignoring the children for the time being......

Emily Lilley marries someone called Lynch.
Emily Lynch then marries Nathan Howard  in Dec 1897
Emily Howard then appears to leave Nathan and move in with John Howard (Nathan's brother)
John Howard goes to Canada sometime after 1911 and dies in 1917
Emily Howard then at some stage, goes back to Nathan (maybe they didn't divorce, and she could just move back and retain her Howard surname !

NATHAN the father of baby Emily, born in 1901,  married Harry Winterbottom in 1922, and she died in 1986.

Gee whizz...I feel exhausted !!

So,  the 1939 record you mention, is that an Electoral Roll.  I can find on Ancestry ? 


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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:31 BST (UK) »
A volume no simply indicates the geographical area of the event.
Volume 8d refers to the collection of Registration Districts around Manchester.

Page numbers are reset for each year/quarter.

The full reference for a GRO entry is therefore:
Year
Quarter
Volume No
Page No

Volume/Page 8d/476 is likely to appear in each year and quarter ;D
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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:36 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you very much, that helps me enormously.  I just couldn't work it out.    Brilliant, I'll sleep better tonight!

Many thanks.

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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:53 BST (UK) »
EMILY HOWARD died in 1941 aged 72.      NATHAN HOWARD died in 1958 aged 84.   

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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi, Electoral registers from 1922-1931 record Nathan & Emily together. They then appear together in 1939 register(on Ancestry). It's only a theory but I do not think Nathan and Emily ever parted. Nathans age on 1901 census is 27. Where is Nathan in 1911. The John recorded in 1901 aged 18 and would only be 27/28 as he was born in c1883 . Why would he go to Canada to sign up ?

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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 September 20 22:40 BST (UK) »
Emily Lilley marries someone called Lynch.

For info. From Lancashire BMD

LILLEY   Emily   
LYNCH   Harry   
1888   Manchester, St. Jude

1891 c Coral Street, Chorlton upon Medlock, Chorlton, Lancashire
Mary Ann Lynch   Head   Widow - b Manchester, Lancashire
Arnold Lynch Son   Single    Railway Porter Goods b   Manchester, Lancashire
Charles A Lynch Son   Single    Labourer For Finisher b Manchester, Lancashire
Emily Lynch   Daughter In Law Widow living On Own Means b Yaxley, Huntingdonshire
Amy Lynch   Granddaughter -   b Manchester
Harry   Lynch   Grandson -   b Manchester
both Lynch gd/children mmn Lilley

1881 census Mary Ann Lynch married to Thomas also has a son named
Harry Lynch bn 1867   Office Boy   Manchester, Lancashire

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details from m/c
Married 21st April 1888
Emily Lilley  20 father Robert, carter
Harry Lynch 21 corner fitter father Thomas, engineer
Witnessed by Arnold Lynch & Maria Jackson




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Re: SEEKING Clarity on Dates v Vol & Page numbers
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 07:05 BST (UK) »
Nathan married Emliy Lynch in 1897. By 1911 it is recorded they have been married 14 years. For some reason in 1911 and with Ada's baptism it appears Nathan is recorded as John

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