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Re: A contractor?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 18 September 20 07:37 BST (UK) »
Rena, thank you so much for putting the Catholic element in context -- I found all that extremely interesting and I'm sure my friend will too.
GR2, thank you for the tabulation of Rathven Kemps! I had of course realised that the place was simply full of the creatures, but this table is a practical and helpful way of checking them out.
As I remarked above, the level of kindness and expertise on this site always amazes me!
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« Reply #19 on: Friday 18 September 20 08:22 BST (UK) »
Expanding a little on the theme of Catholicism, there are in Banffshire two areas where the population remained staunchly Catholic right through the 18th century when Catholicism was officially persecuted. One of these is the Enzie and the other is Glenlivet.

In 1755 the laird built what he called a 'sheep-cote', and gifted it to the RC congregation for use as a place of worship. It is still is use. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3588. This is the first post-Reformation Catholic church in Scotland.

Towards the end of the 18th century it became possible to practise Catholicism openly, and a new Catholic Church, St Gregory's, was built nearby at Preshome. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=121672566.

In Glenlivet, a clandestine seminary at Scalan trained Catholic priests in secret throughout the 18th century. See https://www.scalan.co.uk/ and https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2419.
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« Reply #20 on: Friday 18 September 20 13:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Fofarian, thank you for that and especially for the 'sheep cote' -- brilliant! Could you possibly give an ignorant southerner some idea of how near the Catholic strongholds you mention are to Rathven?

Also if anyone knows of any nice online pictures of Rathven/Buckie/Damhead and indeed Mortlach I'd be very grateful as it would be lovely to give my friend some idea of the area where her ancestors lived. She's very excited about the prospect (Covid permitting) of making the trip north!
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 18 September 20 18:11 BST (UK) »
The Enzie basically contains the western part of the parish of Rathven and part of the parish of Bellie. Its history is rather complicated, so I won't go into it here. You can read about Rathven in the Statistical Accounts at https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Banff/Rathven.

Glenlivet is at the other end of the county of Banff, about 40 miles or an hour or so by car from Buckie, which is the largest town in the parish of Rathven. Most of it is in the parish of Inveraven or Inveravon. See https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Banff/Inveraven.

You can find photographs of all these areas at www.geograph.org.uk.
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 September 20 11:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you Forfarian! I found those links very helpful.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 19 September 20 12:35 BST (UK) »
You're very welcome.
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