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Help deciphering parish marriage register
« on: Thursday 17 September 20 04:04 BST (UK) »
Hi, I have found an 1881 marriage for my great grandmother's sister in Dublin. It is the last marriage on the page -- James Doyle to Bridget Brennan. The first document is the original as I downloaded it from the NLI microfilm. The second document is after I tried to clean it up. Can anyone help me with exactly what it says, both in the headings for the different columns and then what is written in the columns? Even if someone knows what the standard column headings usually are, that would be a help.

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 September 20 06:13 BST (UK) »
OK, I have found a clearer copy but if I have made any mistakes I would appreciate you letting me know.
It seems that the groom is living in the house where he was born (8 Frederick Lane). But his parents are both dead and he has taken over the house.
I can't find the street in Primrose Hill where Bridget lives, but there has been a freeway put through there in the meantime so that is not surprising.
Both sets of parents are dead so there are no addresses for them.  
The next two columns relate to whether there are impediments to the marriage but they are both free to marry and are not close relatives or anything.   
Then the name of the priest.
Then the names and addresses of the witnesses/sponsors.
The final column seems to note "Sponsors married before". Not sure why that would be relevant.
Any other comments welcome.
Geoff

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 September 20 06:36 BST (UK) »
Which parish is it?


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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 September 20 06:48 BST (UK) »
St Michael's, Kingstown, Dublin,  Ireland

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 September 20 06:50 BST (UK) »
Found the civil cert,Rathdown district St.Michaels church.
James address is given as Upper Dorset St.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11010/8025909.pdf

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 September 20 07:04 BST (UK) »
Think you have it all okay, the different address for James is interesting, wonder if the church one is where he lived with his parents and the civil one is where he was staying in the city at the time of the marriage.

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 September 20 07:13 BST (UK) »
the different address for James is interesting,

While trying to find a site that had Irish marriage column headings, I came across one site that said it was common for the bride and groom to be listed at the same address to avoid paying banns fees in two parishes.  I don't know if it applies here, but just throwing it out there as a possibility!

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Re: Help deciphering parish marriage register
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 September 20 07:17 BST (UK) »
So presumably he gave the wrong address at the church (the address where he was born and grew up, not the address he was presently living). Bridget was born at Rochfortbridge (Mullingar) and was presumably living in at Primrose Hill, with the family she was a servant for. James' parents were dead, so he was not living with them.