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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 September 20 02:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you again JM. Just waiting to hear from my friend in Queensland as to purchasing this
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 September 20 04:31 BST (UK) »
I am on e reader, do cannot do live links... BUT ...
NSW police Gazette freely available via Trove....
Wednesday 29 April 1863 ... page 129...
Deserters from HM Service ... so deserting from the British Army.... two chaps deserted 9 April 1863 at Melbourne, from the Royal Artillery and noted as 'Both these men wore Regimentals'  ... one was a chap named Hugh MACK,  from Newry,  aged 31 years ... so right age to be a Dad to a young family.

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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 September 20 05:06 BST (UK) »
Hi JM
Food for thought!!

I know as I said the father of Joseph is called Joseph BUT maybe he had Hugh in the second name??
I never thought of the navy??

I know the side goes back to Scotland somewhere?? (No idea when?)
But the navy is a thought.
I dont even know if he was married in England or met his wife Mary outhere??
Extremely annoying!!
There is nothing to go on  - So this is a thought navy or a merchant seaman??
That's the trouble no ones in amongst 20 of the Mack relatives have found anything! My friend has asked all of them who have dabbled in research.

Thank you - Also not sure about the Hugh name as the family is huge & there is not 1 Hugh amongst them as a first or second name. Just a thought also
This name is driving me to whits end.

Cheers Michelle
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 September 20 05:10 BST (UK) »
British Army deserter.

Army in the colonies as garrison forces until 1870.

Royal Artillery ... Army.   ;D

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Hi JM
Food for thought!!

I know as I said the father of Joseph is called Joseph BUT maybe he had Hugh in the second name??
I never thought of the navy??

I know the side goes back to Scotland somewhere?? (No idea when?)
But the navy is a thought.
I dont even know if he was married in England or met his wife Mary outhere??
Extremely annoying!!
There is nothing to go on  - So this is a thought navy or a merchant seaman??
That's the trouble no ones in amongst 20 of the Mack relatives have found anything! My friend has asked all of them who have dabbled in research.

Thank you - Also not sure about the Hugh name as the family is huge & there is not 1 Hugh amongst them as a first or second name. Just a thought also
This name is driving me to whits end.

Cheers Michelle
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 September 20 05:17 BST (UK) »
Sands NSW Pastoral Directory 1919
MOULAMEIN Pastures Protection Board. 
NO one with surname Mack or similar

A.T. CRESWICK ...
Barham Station,
34 horses
515 cattle
0 sheep
46603 acres
And at Keri Keri same family had
7 horses
18 cattle
7048 sheep
32315 acres

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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 September 20 05:44 BST (UK) »
Scotland is a strong possibility.  One of my ancestors was named Mack, early 1700's. They lived and stayed in Prestonpans, East Lothian, but I havenít explored the wider family or descendants. 

Worth a quick check through family search.org or Scotlandspeople for a possible Joseph but you will still need to confirm the link.
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 September 20 08:08 BST (UK) »
Hi JM
When you wrote British Army deserter.

Army in the colonies as garrison forces until 1870.

Royal Artillery ... Army. - DO you mean he could possibly be an army deserter??
Also I know one of the sons of Joseph was on Barham station? Can't remember which one
Joseph also worked on stations up there & a lot of the family is buried in Barham Cemetery.

I have been trolling over the Family search again for immigration to Victoria. I did find a J mack 40  but of course the wife is as Mrs Mack & they had a son george (No one knows if there were more childrens)
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 September 20 08:12 BST (UK) »
Hi jc26red
I have just finished pouring over family search again & thanks for that.
That's the thing I have nothing to compare to?
This is where the trouble starts.
The son is Joseph is no problem at all with him or his wife and family but he - is proving to be very difficult as there is nothing I can find where he is beginning such as the parents except for 2 names - which are no help.
I have been doing this man since 3 months ago & I can not find a lead anywhere

Thanks for your ideas much appreciated
Cheers Michelle
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Re: need Help with a brick wall - Joseph Mack - Born Ballarat 1863
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 September 20 08:46 BST (UK) »
I am on e reader, do cannot do live links... BUT ...
NSW police Gazette freely available via Trove....
Wednesday 29 April 1863 ... page 129...
Deserters from HM Service ... so deserting from the British Army.... two chaps deserted 9 April 1863 at Melbourne, from the Royal Artillery and noted as 'Both these men wore Regimentals'  ... one was a chap named Hugh MACK,  from Newry,  aged 31 years ... so right age to be a Dad to a young family.

JM.

Yes,  I mean that the NSW Police Gazette of 29 April 1863 at page 129 has details of two soldiers who deserted from Her Majesty's Royal Artillery in Melbourne.   Their descriptions are in the notice, it's freely available on Trove.   :-X probably also available on subscription websites, including ones you need to pay money at,  but definitely at the free website, Trove.

So a soldier named Hugh MACK deserted his military unit in Melbourne.  He was in uniform (regimentals) so he may well have moved into the colony of NSW passing himself off as on leave or similar.


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