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Can't find this birth registration
« on: Thursday 17 September 20 19:31 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find the birth registration for Birdie Florence BRIGGS. Father William BRIGGS, mother Matilda ROFFEY. Her married name was CROSS.

According to the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses she was born in London in 1881.

The 1939 register has her as being born 4th Aug 1880 and death registration also has her birth as 1880.

She was baptised in 1885 but I can't find the birth. It's curious because her parents married in 1871 and had no other children which I find a bit unusual.

Can anybody find her?!


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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 September 20 19:53 BST (UK) »
She should be around in 1881.
When and where did the parents marry?

Is this it?
Dec 1871   (>99%)
BRIGGS    William        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
Plumb    Benjamin William        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
Reece    Sophia Jane        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
ROFFEY    Matilda        St. Olave    1d   401    

Who, when and where were any other children?



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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 September 20 19:59 BST (UK) »
It's curious because her parents married in 1871 and had no other children which I find a bit unusual.

It seems they did have another child, born and died in the same quarter in 1875.

Births Mar 1875  BRIGGS, Edith Matilda, St. Olave, 1d 217    
Deaths Mar 1875 BRIGGS, Edith Matilda, Age 0, St. Olave, 1d 173    

GRO index has the mother's maiden name as ROFFEY

No luck as yet with Birdie - still looking.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:04 BST (UK) »
Also

BRIGGS, FREDERICK  WILLIAM     ROFFEY 
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 330

BRIGGS, FREDERICK  WILLIAM     2 
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 157
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)


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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:06 BST (UK) »
She should be around in 1881.
When and where did the parents marry?

Is this it?
Dec 1871   (>99%)
BRIGGS    William        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
Plumb    Benjamin William        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
Reece    Sophia Jane        St. Olave    1d   401     Scan available - click to view
ROFFEY    Matilda        St. Olave    1d   401    

Who, when and where were any other children?

Yes that's the marriage. I wasnt aware of other children but just saw the posts above.

If 1880 is accurate then where is she on the 1881 census...

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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:07 BST (UK) »
Where are the parents in 1881?
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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:10 BST (UK) »
In 1891 357/79 there is a daughter, Elizabeth Briggs, 25 yrs with the family.

She would be born before the marriage though and not with the family in earlier census. 1881 44/14/2
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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:12 BST (UK) »
Where are the parents in 1881?

RG11/44/14/p 21

Does that show it?

Thank you to the posters who found the other children

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Re: Can't find this birth registration
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 September 20 20:13 BST (UK) »
In 1891 357/79 there is a daughter, Elizabeth Briggs, 25 yrs with the family.

She would be born before the marriage though and not with the family in earlier census. 1881 44/14/2

Yes she was from William Briggs' first marriage