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Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« on: Saturday 19 September 20 19:27 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me find the birth of Noah CROSS, approximately 1786 in Cullompton, Devon. Married in 1819 to Sarah MAUNDER? I have found all details since 1804 when he was in military service, right up to his descendants in the present day. I can find no record of his birth or parentage anywhere in UK.
Please can anyone help me, I've been searching for 35 years!
Many Thanks in anticipation of anyone's help.
CROSS

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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 September 20 22:13 BST (UK) »
There is an online family tree with his father as John Cross but I don't know where that information has come from or how accurate it is.   
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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 September 20 09:24 BST (UK) »
FreeREG has Cullompton Bapts in the right time frame.
I checked Cross bapt c 1781-1796 but no Noah.
Also checked with soundex option a couple under Crosse
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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 September 20 10:25 BST (UK) »
I have found all details since 1804 when he was in military service

Three Cross men from Devon Cullompton in the 28th Regiment of Foot, 2nd Battalion in 1806
Several listings
John Cross, 19, a Weaver
Noah Cross, age 19 or 20, a Weaver
Zach. Cross, 20 or 21, a Weaver

Noah Cross, enlistment 21 Feb 1805
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCW-L7ZZ

Zacharias Cross
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPC4-9NQ4

John Cross
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCW-6P8X


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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 September 20 12:30 BST (UK) »
Closest I can find is a JOHN Cross Bapt 3 Feb 1805 Cullompton
Birth 14 Apr 1783***
Father WILLIAM

Seems to be him 1851;
Thomas Blackmore 73
Fanny Blackmore 61
John Wheeler   50
John Cross   68 Wdr Pauper born Cullumpton (1783)
James Richards   80
James Hall   70
Emanuel Luxton   26

1841 Census
John Cross   55 Weaver
William Cross   15
Lydia Cross   10



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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 September 20 13:19 BST (UK) »
Might have been nonconformists?

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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 September 20 15:02 BST (UK) »
Might have been nonconformists?

Looks as though there were Baptists and Methodists.

Church of England:
St Andrew
Baptist Church: Cullopton Batpist Church; on the site of a meeting house erected in 1743 on High Street.[10]
Methodist: Cullompton Methodist Church, in New Cut; the third chapel on the site. The first was started in 1764 and the current building was built following a fire in 1872 which did serious damage to the chapel built in 1806.
Unitarian: chapel on Pound Square (1913)
Roman Catholic: St Boniface, built in 1929

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Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 September 20 17:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Millipede, but that tree was probably copied from mine, as I made the stupid mistake in the early days of my research, to put my whole tree on Ancestry. Co.UK. It has been copied many time before I had time to remove it and much incorrect information and names have been added. They give Noah’s parents as John CROSS and Sarah LAND but I have not been able to find one reference to either of these people anywhere in the UK.
Thanks Trish1120. I used to work for FreeReg for a year or so, and have deeply studied their records transcribed so far. I have also got the BMD parish records from Exeter and the Devon FHS CD’s. No reference to him is to be found before his marriage to Sarah Maunder in 1819. The census information you suggest is all to do with another family of CROSS in Cullompton, there were also a rich family of CROSSE landowners.
Thanks jonw65, but I have all five pages of the Canadian records of his military history in the 28th Regiment of Foot. (I even bough a book about the battle of Albuerra!) I have been able to find no reference anywhere to John or Zachh(?) in any of my sources, even though they were all of a similar age and were all weavers from Cullompton. Maybe they were all the same family – I don’t know - I have no evidence to say so.
Thanks jaywit, it is possible that they were from a non-conformist family, as Noah’s eldest son, Charles was married to a non-conformist, Elizabeth EVELEIGH. However, other than that, I have been able to find no other record of their being a non-conformist family as all records of Noah were found in the records of St Andrew’s Anglican parish church in Cullompton. (Marriage, birth of his five children, death of himself and one of those children).
CROSS

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Re: Noah Cross- around Cullompton, Devon in 1786.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 September 20 18:59 BST (UK) »
Have you tried contacting St. Andrew's to see if they have a burial "map"? If he is buried there (and he should be as the cemetery didn't come into existence until 1856), perhaps he is buried with family?