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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #18 on: Friday 25 September 20 12:20 BST (UK) »
I think these children belong to John Milburn who married Ann Hawkins 1823 in Rudby.   In 1841 they are living in Rudby.   In 1851 Crathorne all three children are working in various households the 2 girls as servants and Henry as ag.lab.   (Also on this census is an Ann Milburn aged 18, servant also born in Crathorne.)
If the parents are the correct ones I feel there should be more children before Mary.   Of course a John still wouldn't fit in to the time scale!

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #19 on: Friday 25 September 20 14:56 BST (UK) »
Have now found John born 1825 to John & Ann in Rudby and Martha 1827 in Rudby.  So I can discount this John.

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #20 on: Friday 25 September 20 17:47 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 1842 marriage cert. on FindMyPast I see that the groom’s name is written as MILBURNE not MILBURN. Probably not significant as the groom (and bride) did not sign so may have been illiterate.
I also see that the brides residence is given as Yarm and her father is a blacksmith called James PROUD - as in the earlier reported PROUD baptisms at Crathorne. The grooms residence is given as Bishopton, Co. Durham.
So - is it possible that the 1851 census has it wrong. It was the wife who was born in Crathorne and the husband John MILBURN was born in Bishopton in Co. Durham?

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #21 on: Friday 25 September 20 18:14 BST (UK) »
So - is it possible that the 1851 census has it wrong. It was the wife who was born in Crathorne and the husband John MILBURN was born in Bishopton in Co. Durham?

Good thinking, Bryan.
Certainly interesting.
John Milburn married Ann Hall, 21 May 1810, at Bishopton
Very kindly, the whole marriage entry is copied out on the BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G967-PLC

Baptism at Bishopton, 2 March 1812
Ann, daughter and first child of John and Ann Milburn of Little Stainton
Born 23 Feb
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L967-PBG


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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #22 on: Friday 25 September 20 21:16 BST (UK) »
Baptism at Bishopton, 2 March 1812
Ann, daughter and first child of John and Ann Milburn of Little Stainton
Born 23 Feb

Marriage at Sedgefield, 22 Nov 1834
John Ayre junior and Ann Milburn
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY7D-NF?i=320&cc=1309819

1841, Sedgefield
piece 316 book 7 folio 7 page 9 (folio 8 on ancestry)
John Milburn 55 Ag Lab
Ann Milburn 55
John Ayre 4
Ann Ayre 3
Robert Ayre 18
All born county
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBW-PKF

Meanwhile, back on page 1 in same ED
John Ayre 28 Joiner
Ann Ayre 29
Jane Ayre 2
William Ayre 8 months
All born county
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBW-GWK

Will this lead anywhere? :-\

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #23 on: Friday 25 September 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
Lets look at William
AYRE, WILLIAM       
Mother's Maiden Surname: MILBURN 
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in STOCKTON AND SEDGEFIELD  Volume 24  Page 219

Baptized 7 October 1840 at Sedgefield
Parents John and Ann Ayre
father a Cartwright
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY7X-1M?i=376

1851, Sedgefield
piece 2384 folio 625 page 7
John Milburn Head 75 Ag Lab Pauper, born Durham Little Stainton
Ann Milburn Wife 74 Ditto born Northumberland Rudley Shields
William Ayre Grandson 10 Scholar Durham Sedgefield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGB6-RLM

Meanwhile, nearby
piece 2384 folio 625 page 7
John Ayre 38 Joiner Durham Sedgefield
Ann Ayre 38 Durham Little Stainton
Seven children
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJG-5K3

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 September 20 21:39 BST (UK) »
You want the deaths?
OK.

MILBURN, JOHN       
Age at Death (in years): 75 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in STOCKTON  Volume 10A  Page 41

Buried at Sedgefield, 7 April 1852
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY7D-GP?i=472

MILBURN, ANN       
Age at Death (in years): 80 
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in STOCKTON  Volume 10A  Page 57

Run out of Sedgefield BTs.
Based on those ages John and Ann were in their mid 30s when they married at Bishopton in 1810.
Ann was their first child, but was she their only child?

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 26 September 20 11:44 BST (UK) »
Your last three posts look good to me jonw65. And I note that the John MILBURN who died age 75 does turn out to be relevant. It would be worth while getting the death certificate for him and his wife on the chance that his son John may have registered the death.

Possibly John MILBURN in 1841 -
1841 census, Coatham Con, Long Newton, DUR
John FARNDALE 45 Farmer N
William do 10 N
Mary do 9 N
Jerisa do 8 N
John do 5 N
Charles do 3 N
John FARNDALE 15 M.S. N
Matthew do 12 do N
John MALLBURN 25 do Y
Thos ?LIRT 15 do N
Mary DIXON 24 Housekeeper N
Margaret JANSON 20 F.S. Yes

These two deaths do NOT seem to fit -
Death q4 1857 John MILBURN age 54 Stockton 10a 63 - so born abt 1803.
Death q5 1865 John MILBURN age 19 Stockton 10a 21, so born about 1846.

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Re: MILBURN/RUDBY
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 27 September 20 12:01 BST (UK) »
I had a look for the birth of Elizabeth PROUD - then worked back through the register until the Marriage of her parents. Seems that Crathorne was a busy place back then with local people often marrying people from a ways off. On two occasions a spouse was from Lythe which is over on the coast.

Crathorne Register on FindMyPast -
Banns of marriage between James PROUD of the Parish of Crathorne, & Margaret GARBUT of the Parish of Yarm, were published in the Church of Crathorne, April the 23rd & 30th & May the 7th 1797 by me Ralph GRENSIDE, Rector.
Baptism 1799 William Son of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret his Wife, born Thursday Feb 28, baptised March the 1st.
Baptism 1800 Mary Daughter of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret his Wife, born Friday September the 8th, baptised the 7th.
 Baptism 1802 Cornelius, Son of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret his Wife, was born on Monday, July the 26th & baptised the 27th.
Baptism 1805 Margaret, Daughter of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret his Wife, was born & baptised on Sunday, December the 29th.
Baptism 1807 James, Son of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret, his Wife, was born Monday August 31 & baptised September 1.
Baptism 1809 Isaac Son of James PROUD, Blacksmith, & Margaret his Wife, was born & baptised on Sunday, March 12.
Baptism 1810 Elizabeth Daughter of James PROUD, Blacksmith & Margaret his Wife was born on Wednesday , October 31 & baptised Nov’r. 4

PS - Marriage Yarm 12 May 1797, James PROUD & Margaret GRAHAM. (Is this transcript wrong?)
Checked the image of the Banns at Yarm -
Banns of Marriage between James PROUD & Margaret GARBUTT were published April 23 & 30 & May 7th 1907 by me Geo HEWER Curate pro tempore
James PROUD of the Parish of Crathorne in the County of York and Margaret GARBUTT of the Parish of Yarm in the County and diocese of York were married in this Church by Banns this thirteenth Day of May 1797 by me Geo HEWER Curate. James Marked Margaret signed. Witnesses - illegible, William illegible

PPS - Burial at Crathorne All Saints - James PROUD, Blacksmith age 48, 25 Apr 1817.
Burial at Crathorne All Saints - Margaret PROUD age 66, Died 19 June 1839, Buried 22 June 1839.