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Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« on: Monday 21 September 20 15:52 BST (UK) »

We knew a lot about the 4 daughters of George SMITH fishmonger of Broughton road Birkenhead and have photos of them their spouses and children .

But very little about his only son Edgar SMITH

Id like to find a picture of him or his shop

Now have some DNA matches and have worked out  his  descendants 

My first question would be why did he not follow his fathers trade but his own son George Edgar SMITH and grandson Edgar Leonard SMITH followed his trade .

1871 Edgar Age 19 he was a butchers apprentice
He married marharet CAIN
Addresses were Price street 1878+ elexly st 1881
40 Argyll st from 1891
By 1901 son(george) edgar was also a butcher age 17

In 1939 grandson Edgar leonard was in meat transport business I think Letchworth road

Descendants dont have photos of shops or of Edgar the elder ..

There were some divorces remarriage s and scandals along the way  .

.and some vegetarians

But I would be very grateful if anyone has extra information

Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson

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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 September 20 18:27 BST (UK) »
Do you know for sure they owned shops?  They could have just been employees?
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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 September 20 18:33 BST (UK) »
No I dont know if they owned the shops but even a photo of workplace would be nice .
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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 September 20 20:16 BST (UK) »
You would need to know where they worked
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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 September 20 22:54 BST (UK) »
I.ll see if I can find a trade directory site
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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 September 20 08:09 BST (UK) »
The 1894 Kelly's Directory gives

Edgar Smith
Publication Year:1894
Address:   40 Argyle street south, Tranmere
Residence Place: Birkenhead, Lancashire, England
Occupation:Butcher

There is also a George Smith Butcher at 10 Conway Street.

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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 September 20 08:26 BST (UK) »
40 Argyll Street South looks residential: https://tinyurl.com/y46xr44r
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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 September 20 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The 1901 census shows the occupations of both Edgar(s) as Butcher (Slaughterhouse) and identifies them as worker rather than employers.

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Re: Birkenhead Butcher & his dynasty
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 September 20 08:50 BST (UK) »
HI,

A guess for their place of work would be The Birkenhead Abattoir, occupied by Tranmere Meat Co which was opened in 1886 and was sited quite near where the family lived.

See culturegrid.org.uk for an external picture of the building.

Alan