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Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« on: Thursday 24 September 20 13:44 BST (UK) »
My cousin and I have been investigating a link that has emerged between Enos Crummett (1828-1886) and Eliza Jane Locke (c1865-1951). We believe they are father and daughter but are finding it difficult to get conclusive proof.

Eliza Jane Locke was born in Lambeth c.1865 (we believe her birthday was at the end of December). We havenít been able to find her birth or in the 1871 census.

On 16th Aug 1881 she married James Norman Harrison at Pimlico St Peter. She gave her address as Wallisís Yard, Westminster and her father, William Locke, a mariner.

They had 8 children between 1882 and 1897, the first in Cork, Ireland and the others in London. She registered 7 of the children and gave her name as Eliza Jane Harrison formerly Locke. However, her husband registered their 3rd child, Norman, born 1885, and gave the motherís name as Eliza Jane Harrison formerly Crummett.

When she married her second husband in 1905 she gave her fatherís name as Enos Locke (deceased).

After her husband died in 1901, she remarried to Arthur Edward Addison in 1905, had 3 further children and then emigrated to New Zealand with her new husband taking the Addison children but no Harrison children with her. She died in 1951.

So we have done a timeline to compare Enos Crummettís life with that of Eliza Jane Locke and the only cross over is that Enos Crummett was living at 14 Wallisís Yard, Westminster from 1878-1881, the same address Eliza Jane gave at her marriage in 1881.

Enoís was born in Attleborough, Norfolk in 1828, he was imprisoned in Norwich in 1853 for larceny, spent a month in Southwark Workhouse in 1858, married twice Ė Sarah Ann Blatchley (1863) and Mary Ann Brien (1875). He died in 1886 and is buried in Brompton Cemetery.

Can anyone find either Enos Crummett or Eliza Jane Locke in 1871 or Eliza Jane Locke in 1881 (possibly she was working as a servant at182 Milkwood Road, Lambeth)? Has anyone any ideas we could investigate further or perhaps we have gone as far as we can with this one.

Sorry the post is a bit long but wanted to include as much as possible so as not to waste time looking for already known information. Thank you.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 September 20 15:23 BST (UK) »
I see both Enos' parents died in early 1871 [from an ancestry tree] - maybe he went to Norfolk to bury his father in March [modified] his mother & got left off the census?

Do the names of Eliza's children reflect any names in the Crummett family?
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 September 20 15:31 BST (UK) »
Good point re the 1871. His mother, Lydia, died on 1st April 1871 and the census of course was on the 2nd. His father didn't die until 1877. He is on the 1871 census as a widower.

Re the names - no not really.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire


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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:58 BST (UK) »
Have you got a copy of her marriage to James Norman who were the witnesses

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:05 BST (UK) »
Yes and the witnesses were W J Marchant and M Taylor.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:09 BST (UK) »
Well they are not much help

Can't find a baptism that fits either

Wonder if she is any census in New Zealand

Bit of a needle in a haystack

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
No they arenít are they.  ::)

She has descendants in NZ. We have lost touch unfortunately but we believe they have already done a lot of searching from the NZ side with no results.

There doesnít seem to be anything on Eliza Jane prior to her marriage.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:32 BST (UK) »
Might that suggest she maybe changed her name?

For reference 1881 referred to by OP
RG11 Piece number   622 Folio   15 Page   22
Elizabeth Locke aged 16 born Lambeth
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Enos Crummett and Eliza Jane Locke - father and daughter???
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 September 20 18:10 BST (UK) »
I think this particular Elizabeth Locke is MMN Osborne
June qtr 1865 ref 1d 432

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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