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« on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:16 BST (UK) »
Hello
I'm trying to find a marriage between Arthur Douglas b1881 Birmingham and Edith Douglas (nee ?) b1884 Birmingham.  The 1911 Census shows Arthur (a bookmaker) and Edith and also a nephew Harry Bird b1895 Manchester. They are living in London.   I thought there may be a connection between Harry and Edith and have searched marriages for Edith Bird marrying a Douglas. Finding a family where they are siblings: In 1901 Edith Louisa Bird, John Henry (Harry) Bird parents James Richard Bird 1890 and Alice Louisa Squelch is possibility but I'm really not sure.  I've had no luck finding anything on Arthur Douglas' sibling marrying a Bird.  Feel as though I'm not getting on well with this!
Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:27 BST (UK) »
Is Arthur single in 1901? 
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:30 BST (UK) »
Hello
I'm trying to find a marriage between Arthur Douglas b1881 Birmingham and Edith Douglas (nee ?) b1884 Birmingham. 

The 1911 Census shows Arthur (a bookmaker) and Edith and also a nephew Harry Bird b1895 Manchester. They are living in London.   

Any help would be appreciated

How many years does it say married?

Were any children born to the couple?
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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:39 BST (UK) »
1911 Census:  Married 10 years and no children.   I can't be sure the record for 1901 is the same Arthur but he is single and a boarder in St Pancras London


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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 September 20 16:42 BST (UK) »
Is this the nephew Harry Bird on 1901 census with his grandmother Ellen & widowed father Harry?

Ellen   Bird   Head   Widow -   Manchester, Lancashire
Harry   Bird   Son   Widower Hawker   Manchester, Lancashire
Ernest Bird   Son   Single Box Cutter   Manchester, Lancashire
Elizabeth A   Bird   Daughter   Single Embroider   Manchester, Lancashire
Henry Bird   Grand Son   Manchester, Lancashire
Joseph Sutton Boarder Single Machine Joiner   Manchester, Lancashire
9, Kennedy Street, Manchester, Lancashire

Edit to add
looks as if the above Harry Jnr. married Annie Jones nee Cartledge (both widowed) his father Harry, hawker deceased  married on 12 Apr 1919  at Manchester Ancoats, All Souls, one witness George Bird
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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:07 BST (UK) »
Possible birth registration for Harry/Henry gives mmn Cope
BIRD, HENRY       mmn COPE 
GRO Reference: 1892  Sept Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 205

COPE Sarah E   
BIRD   Harry   
1883   Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended   
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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry not having much luck with finding a marriage around c1901

this is the only one with a person named ArthurDouglas to Edith  ???

Sep 1920 Lambeth 1d 790

Scott-Douglas Arthur G   
Fowler Edith

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:20 BST (UK) »
another couple of possibles

Harry Bird  mmn Jolley
1893  J Quarter MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 311

Harry Scott Bird mmn Carswell
1894  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 226

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Marriage search
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 September 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
Do you have Arthur’s birth entry confirming his mmn?

I’m not seeing a birth entry in Birmingham for an Arthur Douglas born c1881

There is this entry

DOUGLAS, ARTHUR       mmn POWELL 
 1878  S Quarter in WARWICK  Volume 06D  Page 588

1881 c

Norton Curlieu, Budbrooke, Warwick, Warwickshire
Thomas Powell Head   Widower Ag Lab   Warwickshire
John   Douglas Son In Law Married Ag Lab   Wolverton, Warwickshire
Jane   Douglas Daughter Married -   Budbrooke, Warwickshire
Emma Douglas Grand Daughter Scholar   Budbrooke, Warwickshire
Lucy E Douglas Grand Daughter -   Budbrooke, Warwickshire
Arthur Douglas Grand Son -   Budbrooke, Warwickshire
Mabel Douglas Grand Daughter -   Budbrooke, Warwickshire


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